--- begin forwarded text Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:10:24 -0500 Reply-To: Digital Signature discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: Digital Signature discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Richard Hornbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Fwd: That spooky PECSENC] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FYI: Gant Redmon wrote: > > Richard: > > As a member of PECSENC, I'm responding to you but CC the list to get a > little info out about PECSENC. It isn't as clandestine a bunch as we are > portrayed. Actually, our closed door briefing on the latest national > security threats have been rather mind numbing and devoid of substance. > Instead, we gather to represent different interests and sit down and have a > dialogue. It's tough because no one camp controls. We have industry > representative like myself, law enforcement representative, usually a strong > BXA and NSA contingent and a smattering of DOJ and Treasury folks that drift > in and out. The real fun starts when the general public takes the time to > show up. The venting going on in meeting in California was a blast. I > think our value add is the feedback we are able to give the folks that draft > the laws that make our lives such a treat. I'd say PECSENC played a role in > the relaxation of controls last December and who knows what will be next. > John Gilmore and I have spoken about what this is worth before. It's true > we aren't making any radical overnight changes occur, but we are trying to > work towards some solutions (or maybe some realizations) that should result > in encryption becoming more fundamental in everyone's lives. > > As for notice, we meet the second Friday every other months. Pretty simple > formula. So far, all meetings have been at BXA headquarters except for one > in California. Just park at the Ronald Reagan building to get off at Metro > Center. See you there. > > Gant Redmon > AXENT Technologies, Inc. > > P.S. Richard: can you get this back to Cyberpunks for me? > Also, in response to a private inquiry, Gant provided the following: >Richard > > People shouldn't feel slighted. Even WE don't have a final agenda yet. A > lot of times, we don't get it until the night before. But it will be from > 10:00 to 3:00 in room 4832 at DOC. There always seems to be chairs > available. It's no rock concert. :) > >Gant > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Richard Hornbeck [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 9:32 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [Fwd: May 14 President's Export Council Subcommittee on > > Encryption Agenda] > > > > FYI (forwarded from Cypherpunks) - apologies for cross-posting. > > > > John Young wrote: > > > > > > An updated agenda for the May 14 meeting in DC of the > > > President's Export Council Subcommittee on Encryption > > > (PECSENC) has been provided by Lisa Ann Carpenter, > > > Committee Liaison Officer (202-482-2583): > > > > > > Opening remarks by the new chairman, William Crowell > > > (ex-Deputy DIRNSA) > > > > > > Encryption initiatives of the Bureau of Export Administration, > > > by William Reinsch > > > > > > Overview of the Critical Infrastructure Assurance Office (CIAO) > > > by Jeffrey Hunker, Director > > > > > > 1:30 Presentation by the office of Senator McCain on his crypto bill > > > > > > 2:00 Report on Congressional activities > > > > > > 2:30 Presentations on Bernstein by the two sides, Cindy Cohn and > > > Department of Justice > > > > > > 3:00 Adjourn (cut back from 5:00 as the FR announced) > > > > > > Also, a list of PECSENC members was promised but has not yet arrived. > > > This information is hard to come by so it will be most welcomed. > > > Minutes of past meetings and policy recommendations are elusive too. > > > See the one public statement: > > > > > > http://209.122.145.150/PresidentsExportCouncil/PECSENC/pecsenc1.htm > > > > > > It's shameful and maybe illegal to hide PECSENC information. Recent > > > scutbutt was that acting PECSENC chair Stewart Baker (ex-NSA) was > > > going to help John Gilmore set up a public web site for PECSENC > > > affairs. That accountability initiative appears to have died with > > > Crowell's appointment, or to be fair, is more likely being studied > > > to slow death to cozzen natsec grizzes -- which fits NSA's MO to > > > SIDA misfit crypto naifs. --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert A. Hettinga <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Philodox Financial Technology Evangelism <http://www.philodox.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'