Re: Electronic Signatures Yield Unpleasant Surprises

2000-07-04 Thread Arnold G. Reinhold
At 12:08 PM -0400 7/3/2000, William Allen Simpson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- "Arnold G. Reinhold" wrote: Nothing new here. I often buy stuff on line and only get e-mail receipts. My credit card statements are a backup, I suppose. If anything the new law will strengthen our case

Re: Electronic Signatures Yield Unpleasant Surprises

2000-07-03 Thread William Allen Simpson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- "Arnold G. Reinhold" wrote: Nothing new here. I often buy stuff on line and only get e-mail receipts. My credit card statements are a backup, I suppose. If anything the new law will strengthen our case with the IRS. Possibly, but I also see language in the

Re: Electronic Signatures Yield Unpleasant Surprises

2000-07-01 Thread Dennis Glatting
Did anyone talk to the IRS? If I do not get a hard copy receipt, how do I prove purchase in case of audit? Moreover, if the transaction is electronic and the vendor's system crashed and the vendor lost his data, which I am confident he is not liable for, or the vendor goes out of business and

Re: Electronic Signatures Yield Unpleasant Surprises

2000-06-30 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, Rich Salz wrote: Their "speciality" in this case is making laws. If they are not capable of or willing to make an effort to comprehend that which they are legislating, then they are negligent in their duties. That seems a little

Re: Electronic Signatures Yield Unpleasant Surprises

2000-06-28 Thread Russell Nelson
Don Davis writes: if we are successful in making crypto that's usable enough to become pervasive, then industry and the public will need new laws to help resolve social conflicts involving crypto, such as inevitably will arise. I'm not sure this statement is as obvious as you think it

Re: Electronic Signatures Yield Unpleasant Surprises

2000-06-28 Thread Rich Salz
Their "speciality" in this case is making laws. If they are not capable of or willing to make an effort to comprehend that which they are legislating, then they are negligent in their duties. That seems a little disingenuous. My specialty is computers, yet I can't fix my modem driver.

Re: Electronic Signatures Yield Unpleasant Surprises

2000-06-28 Thread P.J. Ponder
On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, Don Davis wrote: i'm sorry, but this is a foolish complaint. their specialty is as demanding as ours; why demand that they should master our specialty, when we make no effort to master theirs, and 'You may abuse a tragedy, though you cannot write one. You may scold a

Re: Electronic Signatures Yield Unpleasant Surprises

2000-06-28 Thread William Allen Simpson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Don Davis wrote: i'm sorry, but this is a foolish complaint. their specialty is as demanding as ours; why demand that they should master our specialty, when we make no effort to master theirs, and when we make no effort to help them understand crypto?

Re: Electronic Signatures Yield Unpleasant Surprises

2000-06-28 Thread John Kelsey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- At 10:05 AM 6/25/00 -0400, Don Davis wrote: ... i'm sorry, but this is a foolish complaint. their specialty is as demanding as ours; why demand that they should master our specialty, when we make no effort to master theirs, and when we make no effort to help

Electronic Signatures Yield Unpleasant Surprises

2000-06-24 Thread William Allen Simpson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Electronic Signatures Yield Unpleasant Surprises Knowledgeable Internet users might think that the "Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act" -- passed overwhelmingly by the US Congress last week -- would provide virtual worl

Re: Electronic Signatures Yield Unpleasant Surprises

2000-06-24 Thread P.J. Ponder
On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, William Allen Simpson wrote: . . . . Surprise! Many consumers comparison shop on-line, but quit before purchasing, making their final purchase at a later time in a conventional manner. Vendors are now permitted another new fee for "withdrawal of consent".