Re: WYTM - "but what if it was true?"

2005-06-27 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 09:58:31AM -0600, Chris Kuethe wrote: > And now we have a market for cracked "trusted" banking clients, both > for phishers and lazy people... it's game copy protection wars all > over again. :) > Well cracking the bank application is not really in the user's interests in

Re: WYTM - "but what if it was true?"

2005-06-27 Thread Pat Farrell
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 10:19 -0400, John Denker wrote: > Even more compelling is: > -- obtain laptop hardware from a trusted source > -- obtain software from a trusted source > -- throw the entire laptop into a GSA-approved safe when >not being used. This is just a minor variation of an a

Re: WYTM - "but what if it was true?"

2005-06-27 Thread Chris Kuethe
On 6/26/05, Dan Kaminsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is not necessary though that there exists an acceptable solution that > keeps PC's with persistent stores secure. A bootable CD from a bank is > an unexpectedly compelling option, as are the sort of services we're > going to see coming out o

Re: WYTM - "but what if it was true?"

2005-06-27 Thread John Denker
On 06/27/05 00:28, Dan Kaminsky wrote: ... there exists an acceptable solution that keeps PC's with persistent stores secure. A bootable CD from a bank is an unexpectedly compelling option Even more compelling is: -- obtain laptop hardware from a trusted source -- obtain software from a tru

Re: WYTM - "but what if it was true?"

2005-06-27 Thread Dan Kaminsky
>If you are insisting that there is always >a way and that, therefore, the situation is >permanently hopeless such that the smart >ones are getting the hell out of the >Internet, I can go with that, but then >we (you and I) would both be guilty of >letting the best be the enemy of the good. > >