Re: The PKC-only application security model ...

2008-07-24 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 05:32:02PM -0500, Thierry Moreau wrote: The document I published on my web site today is focused on fielding certificateless public operations with the TLS protocol which does not support client public keys without certificates - hence the meaningless security

Re: The PKC-only application security model ...

2008-07-24 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Thierry Moreau wrote: Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote about various flavors of certificateless public key operation in various standards, notably in the financial industry. Thanks for reporting those. No doubt that certificateless public key operation is neither new nor absence from today's scene.

Re: The PKC-only application security model ...

2008-07-24 Thread Eric Rescorla
At Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:32:02 -0500, Thierry Moreau wrote: Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote about various flavors of certificateless public key operation in various standards, notably in the financial industry. Thanks for reporting those. No doubt that certificateless public key operation

Re: The PKC-only application security model ...

2008-07-24 Thread Tom Scavo
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Thierry Moreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The document I published on my web site today is focused on fielding certificateless public operations with the TLS protocol which does not support client public keys without certificates - hence the meaningless security

Re: The PKC-only application security model ...

2008-07-24 Thread Thierry Moreau
Eric Rescorla wrote: At Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:32:02 -0500, Thierry Moreau wrote: Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote about various flavors of certificateless public key operation in various standards, notably in the financial industry. Thanks for reporting those. No doubt that certificateless

Re: The PKC-only application security model ...

2008-07-24 Thread Thierry Moreau
Tom Scavo wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Thierry Moreau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The document I published on my web site today is focused on fielding certificateless public operations with the TLS protocol which does not support client public keys without certificates - hence the

AppleID Security

2008-07-24 Thread Alec Muffett
Disclaimer: Yes, I am referenced, but I've been blarting about this for nearly two years now, and nobody's paid the slighest notice before; the matter of making website security both a) easy and b) better can now only become *more* urgent.

Re: The PKC-only application security model ...

2008-07-24 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Thierry Moreau wrote: In draft-ietf-sip-dtls-srtp-framework, the detailed scheme uses self-signed certificates created by client end-entities themselves. The basic idea is identical. At the detailed level in my document, the client end-entity auto-issues a security certificate with a breached