Re: Are new passports [an] identity-theft risk?

2004-10-28 Thread Bill Stewart
At 06:11 AM 10/24/2004, Ian Grigg wrote: The questions would then be, what frequency do these things operate on, what power is required to power them up, and what power is required to ... power them down. Any radio guys around? There's an excellent RFID reference article at http://www.acmqueue.com

Re: Are new passports [an] identity-theft risk?

2004-10-28 Thread Florian Weimer
* Dave Emery: > Correct me if I am wrong, but don't most of the passive, cheap > RF or magnetic field powered RFIDs transmit maybe 128 bits of payload, > not thousands and thousands of bits which would be enough to include > addresses, names, useful biometric data and so forth ? Those that

Re: Are new passports [an] identity-theft risk?

2004-10-25 Thread Victor Duchovni
On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 03:23:21PM -0400, Adam Shostack wrote: > 5 years? I don't think we have that long. > > The technology will mature *very* rapidly if Virginia makes their > driver's licenses RFID-enabled, or if the US goes ahead with the > passports. Why? Because there will be a stunning

Re: Are new passports [an] identity-theft risk?

2004-10-25 Thread Adam Shostack
On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 12:58:56AM -0400, Dave Emery wrote: | On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 03:23:21PM -0400, Adam Shostack wrote: | > | > The technology will mature *very* rapidly if Virginia makes their | > driver's licenses RFID-enabled, or if the US goes ahead with the | > passports. Why? Because

Re: Are new passports [an] identity-theft risk?

2004-10-25 Thread Ian Grigg
Dave Emery wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 03:23:21PM -0400, Adam Shostack wrote: Correct me if I am wrong, but don't most of the passive, cheap RF or magnetic field powered RFIDs transmit maybe 128 bits of payload, not thousands and thousands of bits which would be enough to include addres

Re: Are new passports [an] identity-theft risk?

2004-10-25 Thread Dave Emery
On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 03:23:21PM -0400, Adam Shostack wrote: > > The technology will mature *very* rapidly if Virginia makes their > driver's licenses RFID-enabled, or if the US goes ahead with the > passports. Why? Because there will be a stunning amount of money to > be stolen by not identit

Re: Are new passports [an] identity-theft risk?

2004-10-25 Thread Krister Walfridsson
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Perry E. Metzger wrote: I don't know who *else* has said it, but I've said this repeatedly at conferences. With phased arrays, you should be able to read RFID tags at surprising distances, and in spite of attempts to jam such signals (such as RSA's proposed RFID privacy mechani

Re: Are new passports [an] identity-theft risk?

2004-10-23 Thread Adam Shostack
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 11:01:16AM -0400, Whyte, William wrote: | | > R.A. Hettinga wrote: | > > | > | > | > > An engineer and RFID expert with Intel claims there is | > little danger of | > > unauthorized people reading the

RE: Are new passports [an] identity-theft risk?

2004-10-23 Thread Whyte, William
> R.A. Hettinga wrote: > > > > > > An engineer and RFID expert with Intel claims there is > little danger of > > unauthorized people reading the new passports. Roy Want > told the newssite: > > "It is actually quite hard to

Re: Are new passports [an] identity-theft risk?

2004-10-22 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Ian Grigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > R.A. Hettinga wrote: >> >> An engineer and RFID expert with Intel claims there is little danger of >> unauthorized people reading the new passports. Roy Want told the newssite: >> "It is

Re: Are new passports [an] identity-theft risk?

2004-10-22 Thread Ian Grigg
R.A. Hettinga wrote: An engineer and RFID expert with Intel claims there is little danger of unauthorized people reading the new passports. Roy Want told the newssite: "It is actually quite hard to read RFID at a distance," sa