can a random number be subject to a takedown?

2007-05-01 Thread Perry E. Metzger
A lot of sites have been getting DMCA takedowns for the HD-DVD processing key that got leaked recently. My question to the assembled: are cryptographic keys really subject to DMCA subject to takedown requests? I suspect they are not copyrightable under the criterion from the phone directory

Re: can a random number be subject to a takedown?

2007-05-01 Thread Hal Finney
My question to the assembled: are cryptographic keys really subject to DMCA subject to takedown requests? I suspect they are not copyrightable under the criterion from the phone directory precedent. A sample demand letter from the AACS Licensing Authority appears at:

Re: can a random number be subject to a takedown?

2007-05-01 Thread lists
A lot of sites have been getting DMCA takedowns for the HD-DVD processing key that got leaked recently. My question to the assembled: are cryptographic keys really subject to DMCA subject to takedown requests? I suspect they are not copyrightable under the criterion from the phone directory

Re: can a random number be subject to a takedown?

2007-05-01 Thread Perry E. Metzger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Finney) writes: A sample demand letter from the AACS Licensing Authority appears at: http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=03218 From what I can see, there is no claim that the key is copyrighted. Rather, the letter refers to the provisions of the DMCA which

128 bit number T-shirt?

2007-05-01 Thread Perry E. Metzger
It would be amusing if the HD-DVD encryption key that has been the subject of the recent pseudo-takedown notices were to show up in a T-shirt for sale. Now that services like Cafe Press exist, someone could start selling such shirts almost as fast as they could put together a nice design for

Re: can a random number be subject to a takedown?

2007-05-01 Thread James S. Tyre
At 05:04 PM 5/1/2007 -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Finney) writes: A sample demand letter from the AACS Licensing Authority appears at: http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=03218 ... This seems odd to me because my understanding of the DMCA's

Re: 128 bit number T-shirt?

2007-05-01 Thread Leichter, Jerry
| It would be amusing if the HD-DVD encryption key that has been the | subject of the recent pseudo-takedown notices were to show up in a | T-shirt for sale. | | Now that services like Cafe Press exist, someone could start selling | such shirts almost as fast as they could put together a nice

Re: can a random number be subject to a takedown?

2007-05-01 Thread Jon Callas
On May 1, 2007, at 12:53 PM, Perry E. Metzger wrote: A lot of sites have been getting DMCA takedowns for the HD-DVD processing key that got leaked recently. My question to the assembled: are cryptographic keys really subject to DMCA subject to takedown requests? I suspect they are not

Re: 128 bit number T-shirt?

2007-05-01 Thread Perry E. Metzger
[Moderator's note: Manually forwarded because of a software glitch. --Perry] From: Gary Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 128 bit number T-shirt? To: Perry E. Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: cryptography@metzdowd.com Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 17:30:10 -0700 Your wish has been granted

Re: 128 bit number T-shirt?

2007-05-01 Thread Rui Paulo
At Tue, 01 May 2007 20:59:42 -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: [Moderator's note: Manually forwarded because of a software glitch. --Perry] From: Gary Ellison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 128 bit number T-shirt? To: Perry E. Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: cryptography@metzdowd.com Date:

Re: 128 bit number T-shirt?

2007-05-01 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Paul Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your wish has been granted http://www.cafepress.com/09f9 This would be a lot more popular if the t-shirt and mug said something a bit more fetching above the hex such as Ask me about HD-DVD. I'd like one with Wearing an integer is not circumvention. on