Re: [cryptography] US Appeals Court upholds right not to decrypt a drive

2012-02-25 Thread Peter Gutmann
Jon Callas j...@callas.org writes: I've spoken to law enforcement and border control people in a country that is not the US, who told me that yeah, they know all about TrueCrypt and their assumption is that *everyone* who has TrueCrypt has a hidden volume and if they find TrueCrypt they just get

Re: [cryptography] US Appeals Court upholds right not to decrypt a drive

2012-02-25 Thread Peter Gutmann
Bill St. Clair billstcl...@gmail.com writes: Which is why the average random geek needs to be reminded, over and over again, that you NEVER talk to the police. Not a word. Ever. If you're feeling kind, write them a note, I don't talk to police. They should leave wondering whether you're mute.

Re: [cryptography] US Appeals Court upholds right not to decrypt a drive

2012-02-25 Thread Randall Webmail
Which is why the average random geek needs to be reminded, over and over again, that you NEVER talk to the police. Not a word. Ever. If you're feeling kind, write them a note, I don't talk to police. They should leave wondering whether you're mute. Uh, you know the bit where I said that the

Re: [cryptography] Explaining crypto to engineers (was: Duplicate primes in lots of RSA moduli)

2012-02-25 Thread Ondrej Mikle
Hi, here is an attempt to summarize view of crypto from engineers' point of view. It's based on discussing the points raised in the Duplicate primes... thread with couple of HW/SW engineers and past experience with colleagues. Sorry for the length, this post grew quite a bit. Hopefully I caught

Re: [cryptography] US Appeals Court upholds right not to decrypt a drive

2012-02-25 Thread Kevin W. Wall
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 2:50 AM, Jon Callas j...@callas.org wrote: [snip] But to get to the specifics here, I've spoken to law enforcement and border control people in a country that is not the US, who told me that yeah, they know all about TrueCrypt and their assumption is that *everyone*

Re: [cryptography] trustwave admits issuing corporate mitm certs

2012-02-25 Thread John Case
On Sun, 12 Feb 2012, Jeffrey Walton wrote: (2) Did the other end of the SSL/TLS tunnel also agree to be monitored? Ding! Yes, that is the key - and was the key the first time we visited this subject a few months ago. When all is said and done, and Jane Doe cube peasant signs away her

Re: [cryptography] trustwave admits issuing corporate mitm certs

2012-02-25 Thread Marsh Ray
On 02/25/2012 05:55 PM, John Case wrote: When all is said and done, and Jane Doe cube peasant signs away her life, and the browsers all look the other way and every CA is doing it ... after all of that, does Wells Fargo actually consent to your bullshit Fortune 30,000 firm monitoring their

Re: [cryptography] US Appeals Court upholds right not to decrypt a drive

2012-02-25 Thread James A. Donald
On 2012-02-25 5:50 PM, Jon Callas wrote: There is no such thing as plausible deniability in a legal context. Plausible deniability is a term that comes from conspiracy theorists (and like many things contains a kernel of truth) to describe a political technique where everyone knows what

Re: [cryptography] US Appeals Court upholds right not to decrypt a drive

2012-02-25 Thread James A. Donald
Jon Callasj...@callas.org writes: I've spoken to law enforcement and border control people in a country that is not the US, who told me that yeah, they know all about TrueCrypt and their assumption is that *everyone* who has TrueCrypt has a hidden volume and if they find TrueCrypt they

Re: [cryptography] (off-topic) Bitcoin is a repeated lesson in cryptography applications - was endgame

2012-02-25 Thread James A. Donald
On 2012-02-26 1:18 AM, Benjamin Kreuter wrote: The demand for Bitcoin as a currency is driven by its properties as a digital cash system; people still need to get their nation's currency at some point Frau Eisenmenger writes in her 1919 diary: