Re: [cryptography] ICIJ's project - comment on cryptography & tools

2013-04-06 Thread Nico Williams
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 6:34 AM, ianG wrote: >> We hope the NSA types haven't forgotten that good guys >> need crypto, whether LEA like it or not. > > I personally believe that the NSA's policy that the good guys don't need > good crypto is the underlying root to the problem. A goodly portion if n

Re: [cryptography] ICIJ's project - comment on cryptography & tools

2013-04-06 Thread StealthMonger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ianG writes: > I personally believe that the NSA's policy that the good guys don't need > good crypto is the underlying root to the problem. A goodly portion if > not all. > Internally to the NSA this is known as 'the equity issue' or so I've hea

Re: [cryptography] ICIJ's project - comment on cryptography & tools

2013-04-06 Thread Kevin W. Wall
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 7:34 AM, ianG wrote: > On 6/04/13 07:27 AM, Nico Williams wrote: [snip] > This bit: > >> We hope the NSA types haven't forgotten that good guys >> need crypto, whether LEA like it or not. > > I personally believe that the NSA's policy that the good guys don't need > good cry

Re: [cryptography] ICIJ's project - comment on cryptography & tools

2013-04-06 Thread ianG
On 6/04/13 07:27 AM, Nico Williams wrote: On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 9:17 PM, NgPS wrote: In the movies and presumably in real life, bad guys have smart crooked lawyers advising them. Surely the bad guys have the resources to set up bunch of servers a la iMessage/Whatsapp, and write/deploy their ow