On 05/07/2014 08:31 AM, Joshua Hill wrote:
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 10:37:48PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
It is well known that the DES S-Boxes were specifically designed (by the
NSA, no less, back in the good ol' days) to protect against that attack.
This was the lore for years after the
A question about DES. Did anyone ever try map or graph the routes
through the S-boxes? I mean pictorially. Do the routes produce some
kind of wave or path, that have (or have not) relationships with the
other routes?
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On 05/05/2014 09:08 PM, Givon Zirkind wrote:
A question about DES. Did anyone ever try map or graph the routes
through the S-boxes? I mean pictorially. Do the routes produce some
kind of wave or path, that have (or have not) relationships with the
other routes?
This is a vague question,
On 05/05/2014 10:37 PM, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
On 05/05/2014 09:08 PM, Givon Zirkind wrote:
A question about DES. Did anyone ever try map or graph the routes
through the S-boxes? I mean pictorially. Do the routes produce some
kind of wave or path, that have (or have not) relationships with
On Mon, 5 May 2014, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
It is well known that the DES S-Boxes were specifically designed (by the
NSA, no less, back in the good ol' days) to protect against that attack.
If I recall Schneier, the S-boxes were *modified* by the NSA, not
designed.
-- Dave
A question about DES. Did anyone ever try map or graph the routes
through the S-boxes? I mean pictorially. Do the routes produce some
kind of wave or path, that have (or have not) relationships with the
other routes?
Mentioned in Schneier, I believe.
-- Dave
On 6 May 2014 at 8:35, Dave Horsfall wrote:
On Mon, 5 May 2014, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
It is well known that the DES S-Boxes were specifically designed (by
the
NSA, no less, back in the good ol' days) to protect against that
attack.
If I recall Schneier, the S-boxes were *modified*
On 05/06/2014 01:20 AM, Bernie Cosell wrote:
On 6 May 2014 at 8:35, Dave Horsfall wrote:
On Mon, 5 May 2014, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
It is well known that the DES S-Boxes were specifically designed (by
the
NSA, no less, back in the good ol' days) to protect against that
attack.
If I