Re: Criminalizing crypto criticism

2001-07-31 Thread Alan Olsen
On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Rick Smith at Secure Computing wrote: > There are probably enough "cryptography researchers" out there that even a > large vendor won't feel tempted to harass them all proactively. All they have to do is make a messy example out of one or two. (It also helps if you can get

Re: Criminalizing crypto criticism

2001-07-31 Thread Rick Smith at Secure Computing
At 01:13 PM 7/27/2001, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: >It's certainly not broad enough -- it protects "encryption" research, >and the definition of "encryption" in the law is meant to cover just >that, not "cryptography". And the good-faith effort to get permission >is really an invitation to harrass

Re: Criminalizing crypto criticism

2001-07-31 Thread Alan
On Friday 27 July 2001 11:13, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Declan McCullagh writes: > >One of those -- and you can thank groups like ACM for this, if my > >legislative memory is correct -- explicitly permits encryption > >research. You can argue fairly persuasively t

Re: Criminalizing crypto criticism

2001-07-28 Thread John Gilmore
> Much of the hysteria regarding the DMCA's supposed ability to quash free > speech by cryptographic researchers is being whipped up by opponents > to the DMCA who are misrepresenting the DMCA in a calculated fashion in > order to promote opposition. The anonymous poster's legal analysis was not

Re: Criminalizing crypto criticism

2001-07-28 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer
Arnold Reinhold writes: > If you read the language carefully, you will see that 1201g only > permits *circumvention* as part of cryptographic research (and then > only under limited circumstances). There is nothing in the law that > allows publication of results. Not true. Look closely at ht

Re: Criminalizing crypto criticism

2001-07-28 Thread Eric Murray
On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 06:36:53PM -0400, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote: [..] > > If you read the language carefully, you will see that 1201g only > permits *circumvention* as part of cryptographic research (and then > only under limited circumstances). There is nothing in the law that > allows pu

Re: Criminalizing crypto criticism

2001-07-27 Thread Arnold G. Reinhold
At 1:56 AM -0400 7/27/2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: >On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 10:53:02PM -0400, David Jablon wrote: >> With these great new laws, there is no longer any risk of being legally >> criticised for using even the most glaringly flawed cryptography >>-- just use it >> for Copy Protection

Re: Criminalizing crypto criticism

2001-07-27 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Declan McCullagh writes: > >One of those -- and you can thank groups like ACM for this, if my >legislative memory is correct -- explicitly permits encryption >research. You can argue fairly persuasively that it's not broad >enough, and certainly 2600 found in the D

Criminalizing crypto criticism

2001-07-27 Thread pasward
David Jablon writes: > > Yet, on a sad note, public crypto research has to stop. > One might think it could survive in purely academic circles. > But no, you'd have to be a fool to criticise even an academic paper. > Anybody, perhaps the resentful author, could co-opt the work for > Copy P

Re: Criminalizing crypto criticism

2001-07-27 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 10:53:02PM -0400, David Jablon wrote: > With these great new laws, there is no longer any risk of being legally > criticised for using even the most glaringly flawed cryptography -- just use it > for Copy Protection, and TADA! Negative criticism magically disappears. > Alm

Criminalizing crypto criticism

2001-07-26 Thread David Jablon
At 07:13 PM 7/25/01 -0400, Matt Blaze wrote: >(Fortunately, as far as I know WEP isn't used for copy protection, >so it's still legal to disseminate and traffic in this kind >of information...) > >-matt A strange thought, With these great new laws, there is no longer any risk of being legally cr