Re: [css-d] strange problem with float

2010-01-22 Thread david
I believe there are also virtual machine images available from MS that can be used under MS' proprietary VM "player", that include differing versions of IE. Or you can use Linux. Sun's VirtualBox will happily install and run Windows in a VM. You set up a VirtualBox image, make a copy of it, run

Re: [css-d] strange problem with float

2010-01-22 Thread oliver
IE Collections works great. Plus it includes that dev tool bar, which is nearly as nice as the webkit js console in Chrome, thanks Tim for that link. Also: On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Alan Gresley wrote: > oliver wrote: >> >> Found this, but not sure yet if this is still something ongoing:

Re: [css-d] strange problem with float

2010-01-22 Thread Alan Gresley
oliver wrote: > Found this, but not sure yet if this is still something ongoing: > > http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/04/17/ie7-virtual-pc-image-and-ie6-virtual-pc-image-refresh.aspx > > I have read that the way to go is VM's because multiple IE's just too > brittle. The above would be great

Re: [css-d] strange problem with float

2010-01-22 Thread Alan Gresley
Kyle Sessions wrote: > There was recent talk on this list of using MultipleIEs for that sort > of thing, but I seem to remember some issue with MultipleIEs not > playing nicely with IE8. (snip) If you followed the thread completely, you would have heard that un-stalling and re-installing Multipl

Re: [css-d] float: left; height: 100%?

2010-01-22 Thread Jack Bates
> On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 11:57:46AM -0800, Thierry Koblentz wrote: > > > > > > Looks like a proper use for a table to me - with a background colour on > > > the table cells. > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > > > Could this also be done with a definition list and then styling the > > tag? > > > >

Re: [css-d] float: left; height: 100%?

2010-01-22 Thread Jack Bates
On Wed, Jan 06, 2010 at 11:57:46AM -0800, Thierry Koblentz wrote: > > > > Looks like a proper use for a table to me - with a background colour on > > the table cells. > > > > HTH > > > > > Could this also be done with a definition list and then styling the > tag? > > We don't know much abou

Re: [css-d] strange problem with float

2010-01-22 Thread oliver
Found this, but not sure yet if this is still something ongoing: http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/04/17/ie7-virtual-pc-image-and-ie6-virtual-pc-image-refresh.aspx I have read that the way to go is VM's because multiple IE's just too brittle. The above would be great. Oliver On Fri, Jan 22,

Re: [css-d] strange problem with float

2010-01-22 Thread Kyle Sessions
There was recent talk on this list of using MultipleIEs for that sort of thing, but I seem to remember some issue with MultipleIEs not playing nicely with IE8. For my cross-browser testing, I use IE Collection, available here: http://finalbuilds.edskes.net/iecollection.htm . For users of Win XP, Vi

Re: [css-d] strange problem with float

2010-01-22 Thread oliver
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Climis, Tim wrote: >> Not sure yet what the fix is. Or, if you know of a free CSS >> exploration tool *for IE* like the (awesome!) javascript console that >> comes with Chrome, I could try using such a tool to figure it out. > > Well, there's the IE Developer toolb

Re: [css-d] strange problem with float

2010-01-22 Thread Climis, Tim
> Not sure yet what the fix is. Or, if you know of a free CSS > exploration tool *for IE* like the (awesome!) javascript console that > comes with Chrome, I could try using such a tool to figure it out. Well, there's the IE Developer toolbar. It's only good for IE7 (although IE8 comes with it bui

Re: [css-d] strange problem with float

2010-01-22 Thread oliver
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Climis, Tim wrote: > > However, in IE6 (haven't tried ealier versions), the right sidebar > (localsidebarpanel) is off in never land and its color is completely > wrong and can't be changed (weird!). I tested with IE 7 and 8 based on > output from http://ipinfo.inf

Re: [css-d] IE6 doesn't see styles [solved]

2010-01-22 Thread Peter Bradley
Bill Braun wrote: > Congrats, Peter. BTW, those writers sure look happy. > > Bill B > > Probably drunk. :) The presentation I'm doing is for their summer school this August, and is about Web pages for authors. Hopefully I'll be able to get them to approach their Web presence just as profes

Re: [css-d] strange problem with float

2010-01-22 Thread Climis, Tim
However, in IE6 (haven't tried ealier versions), the right sidebar (localsidebarpanel) is off in never land and its color is completely wrong and can't be changed (weird!). I tested with IE 7 and 8 based on output from http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/ and the layout is even worse, and still same co

[css-d] strange problem with float

2010-01-22 Thread oliver
Hello, my site at http://pubsub.sourceforge.net displays just fine in FF and Chrome. I'm getting a hang of this CSS stuff :) I'm not doing anything really fancy: some divs with some float:left and some widths so that things fit nicely together (some of the HTML is autogenerated -- not mine -- but s

Re: [css-d] IE6 doesn't see styles [solved]

2010-01-22 Thread Bill Braun
Peter Bradley wrote: > Many thanks to everybody who replied and helped with this. > > I've re-written the page, using floats instead of absolute positioning, > and ems instead of percentages: > > http://www.peredur.net/swanwick > > It now doesn't need any conditional styles. It's not going to w

Re: [css-d] IE6 doesn't see styles [solved]

2010-01-22 Thread Peter Bradley
Many thanks to everybody who replied and helped with this. I've re-written the page, using floats instead of absolute positioning, and ems instead of percentages: http://www.peredur.net/swanwick It now doesn't need any conditional styles. It's not going to win any design awards, but it'll mak

Re: [css-d] Fraction bar

2010-01-22 Thread Climis, Tim
> I took Alan's sample and expanded on it to provide a horizontal line. I > haven't extensively tested it but it works well for me on FF3.5. It does look good in FF3.5. But it doesn't look nearly as nice in any other browser. The spacing between the numbers and the bar is too big in everything

Re: [css-d] Fraction bar

2010-01-22 Thread Mark Richards
>> This is far to complex. In maths, a fraction 3 over 2 is also >> the same >> as 3 divided by 2. This markup and CSS does this. >> >> 3/2 >> >> -- >> Alan http://css-class.com/ >I run your code and saw your demo, but I wanted a horizontal line. I took Alan's sample and expanded on it to pro