Re: [css-d] parse error on *html

2011-07-29 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Tom Livingston wrote: Though I'm rusty on *HTML hacks- havent used one in years - the validator is a tool, not law. If you know that is correct and need it for a fix, then it's fine. With respect, the validator is more likely to know if something is correct than a mere human; I would be

Re: [css-d] parse error on *html

2011-07-29 Thread Mark Henderson
Philippe wrote: In a decent browser, it won't select anything and nothing though... That hack relies on the fact that the simple little mind of IE 6  7 ‘thinks’ there is an element that wraps around the root element (html). Of course there is none. And Alan responded: This is not correct.

Re: [css-d] parse error on *html

2011-07-29 Thread Tom Livingston
That is what I meant. if you know it is correct as in 'I know it's there and why'. I guess I could have been clearer. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 29, 2011, at 4:17 AM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote: Tom Livingston wrote: Though I'm rusty on *HTML hacks-

Re: [css-d] parse error on *html

2011-07-29 Thread Alan Gresley
On 29/07/2011 6:36 PM, Mark Henderson wrote: Philippe wrote: In a decent browser, it won't select anything and nothing though... That hack relies on the fact that the simple little mind of IE 67 ‘thinks’ there is an element that wraps around the root element (html). Of course there is none.

Re: [css-d] IE7 absolute position hasLayout issue

2011-07-29 Thread Tom Livingston
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Angela Jordan i...@angelaejordan.com wrote: I'm pretty sure this is a hasLayout issue since it appears in IE7 and no other browsers I've looked at (not testing for IE6), but I've tried half a dozen fixes to no avail.  I would really appreciate your input! --

Re: [css-d] IE7 absolute position hasLayout issue

2011-07-29 Thread G.Sørtun
On 29.07.2011 17:05, Angela Jordan wrote: I'm pretty sure this is a hasLayout issue since it appears in IE7 and no other browsers I've looked at (not testing for IE6), but I've tried half a dozen fixes to no avail. http://mobilebotanicalgardens.org/wordpress/ IE7, and older, tend to mess

Re: [css-d] IE7 absolute position hasLayout issue

2011-07-29 Thread Tom Livingston
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:48 AM, G.Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net wrote: On 29.07.2011 17:05, Angela Jordan wrote:  I'm pretty sure this is a hasLayout issue since it appears in IE7  and no other browsers I've looked at (not testing for IE6), but I've  tried half a dozen fixes to no avail.  

Re: [css-d] IE7 absolute position hasLayout issue

2011-07-29 Thread Angela Jordan
Thanks Tom. I did try that, if you check the page again you'll see #primary before the close of #container, but as far as I can tell it still doesn't show up in IE7. Did you change any of the CSS? Angela On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 29,

[css-d] text position in unordered list

2011-07-29 Thread John
given the code below, how is the text positioned within the containers? I've tried inserting margin-left values in every one of the divs below, and the only result is that the entire menu moves to the right! I thought it might be #navlist, but that governs the position of the whole thing,

Re: [css-d] text position in unordered list

2011-07-29 Thread John
On Jul 29, 2011, at 2:00 PM, Tom Livingston wrote: OK, maybe not. Changing the padding works, like padding: 3px 0 3px 30px; glad to hear you say that! yes, padding does work...I guess maybe that's even more insight into the block nature such that margin moves the whole thing,

Re: [css-d] text position in unordered list

2011-07-29 Thread John
That's exactly what your previous post said...made sense to me. J On Jul 29, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Tom Livingston wrote: Correction: The bg color and border are on the a href, so when you add margin, it's sliding the a over which is exactly what you want, but the bg color and border are moving

Re: [css-d] text position in unordered list

2011-07-29 Thread John
OK...and not are I knew what you meant. :-) J On Jul 29, 2011, at 2:11 PM, John wrote: That's exactly what your previous post said...made sense to me. J On Jul 29, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Tom Livingston wrote: Correction: The bg color and border are on the a href, so when you add margin,

Re: [css-d] text position in unordered list

2011-07-29 Thread John
On Jul 29, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Tom Livingston wrote: Adding the padding is more user-friendly as it keeps the entire width of a menu item clickable. Otherwise a user would have to make sure they clicked right on the text as it would be the only linked area. a href displayed as block allows it's

Re: [css-d] text position in unordered list

2011-07-29 Thread John
On Jul 29, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Tom Livingston wrote: The bg color and border are on the a href, so when you add margin, it's sliding the a over which is exactly what you want, but the bg color and border are moving too. And, moment of discovery for me...when 10px of padding is added to move

Re: [css-d] IE7 absolute position hasLayout issue

2011-07-29 Thread Angela Jordan
After I sent that previous message I put the html at the top of the container div rather than the bottom, and now it works. Thanks again! Angela On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Tom Livingston tom...@gmail.com wrote: This is a screen of my XP, IE 7 VMWare test. I just made a local copy of

Re: [css-d] text position in unordered list

2011-07-29 Thread Mark Henderson
And, moment of discovery for me...when 10px of padding is added to move the text over, 10px must be subtracted from the container, to keep it the same width. The way it is configured now, right. There have been a few discoveries since those menus were released (although they are still great