Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-17 Thread Paul Novitski
At 09:10 PM 6/17/2005, David Marr wrote: Question about the Doctype needing to be on line 1 in the source.. With ASP, it is standard practice to set your @Language directive at the top of the page. I believe this causes an empty line to be written in the source. Since that is the first thing I us

Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-17 Thread Thierry Koblentz
David Marr wrote: > Question about the Doctype needing to be on line 1 in the source.. > With ASP, it is standard practice to set your @Language directive at > the top of the page. I believe this causes an empty line to be written > in the source. Since that is the first thing I usually do in a pag

Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-17 Thread David Marr
Question about the Doctype needing to be on line 1 in the source.. With ASP, it is standard practice to set your @Language directive at the top of the page. I believe this causes an empty line to be written in the source. Since that is the first thing I usually do in a page, will that still affect

Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-15 Thread Big John
David Hucklesby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's also this CSS-only solution to min-width from Stu Nicholls: > > By a strange coincidence, Mike Purvis also came up with this idea at about the same time, but with an added wrapper to all

Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-15 Thread Alexander Khost
Yes, thanks for that link, David! On 6/14/05, Ingo Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Hucklesby schrieb: > > > > > That's a clever idea. > Thanks for linking. > Ingo > __

Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-14 Thread Ingo Chao
David Hucklesby schrieb: That's a clever idea. Thanks for linking. Ingo __ css-discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d List wiki/FAQ -

Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-14 Thread David Hucklesby
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:28:43 -0400, Alexander Khost wrote: > I recently found a CSS expression hack for IE's lack of min-width > support. > Alexander, There's also this CSS-only solution to min-width from Stu Nicholls: Be sure to read his (s

Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-13 Thread David Laakso
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:14:13 -0400, Don Hinshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:[...] I have a question about this: if using a DOCTYPE of: "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd";> Is there any way to put IE into quirks mode such that CSS expressions can safely be used? Putting an XML declaration(

Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-13 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Don Hinshaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have a question about this: if using a DOCTYPE of: http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd";> Is there any way to put IE into quirks mode such that CSS expressions can safely be used? Is it even necessary? I am trying to implement a solution using them a

Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-13 Thread Kelly Miller
If you put ANYTHING before the Doctype, IE6 will shift to quirks mode (page authors complain to Microsoft about this because the XML prolog, which is SUPPOSED to be first in XHTML, will put IE6 in quirks mode). Don Hinshaw wrote: Al Sparber wrote: I won't debate your personal preference ve

Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-13 Thread Richard Grevers
On 6/14/05, Don Hinshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Al Sparber wrote: > > > > > I won't debate your personal preference versus mine - they both can > > achieve good results if handled properly. CSS expressions as > > advertised sometimes on this list lead to slutions that are not clear > > about

Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-13 Thread Don Hinshaw
Al Sparber wrote: I won't debate your personal preference versus mine - they both can achieve good results if handled properly. CSS expressions as advertised sometimes on this list lead to slutions that are not clear about quirks mode versus standards mode and can easily cause a recursive l

Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-13 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Gunlaug Sørtun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Al Sparber wrote: From the site you linked: "As it is now, these expressions can only be made to work in IE5.0+/win, and only in quirks mode. This at least give us a mean to overcome some of IE/win's shortcomings with regard to W3C's CSS standards

Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Al Sparber wrote: From the site you linked: "As it is now, these expressions can only be made to work in IE5.0+/win, and only in quirks mode. This at least give us a mean to overcome some of IE/win's shortcomings with regard to W3C's CSS standards as they are." This is wrong. I would quest

Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-13 Thread Al Sparber
From: "David Laakso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bingo! From the site you linked: "As it is now, these expressions can only be made to work in IE5.0+/win, and only in quirks mode. This at least give us a mean to overcome some of IE/win's shor

Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-13 Thread David Laakso
On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 15:37:05 -0400, Kelly Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You CAN use expressions to dodge around some of IE's support problems. I thought there was some discussion about adding expressions to CSS, and note that if the user has Javascript disabled or security at a certain

Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Alexander Khost wrote: I recently found a CSS expression hack for IE's lack of min-width support. Welcome to the club... ...and IE-expressions can do a lot more than simulate min-width. Does anyone know if there is currently or are future

Re: [css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-13 Thread Kelly Miller
Alexander Khost wrote: I recently found a CSS expression hack for IE's lack of min-width support. Does anyone know if there is currently or are future plans for starting a cross-browser version of CSS expressions? Otherwise can anyone explain why expressions are a bad thing and should be avoide

[css-d] CSS Expressions

2005-06-13 Thread Alexander Khost
I recently found a CSS expression hack for IE's lack of min-width support. Does anyone know if there is currently or are future plans for starting a cross-browser version of CSS expressions? Otherwise can anyone explain why expressions are a bad thing and should be avoided? At first glance, they