Re: [css-d] Sidenotes v Footnotes

2005-07-29 Thread Paul Novitski
At 02:51 AM 7/29/2005, Bob Easton wrote: John Gruber has an article at "Daring Fireball" which shows another way of doing footnotes that has very simple markup and includes a return link that is both attractive and convenient. http://daringfireball.net/2005/07/footnotes I took a look at the a

Re: [css-d] Sidenotes v Footnotes

2005-07-29 Thread Beau Hartshorne
Hi Bob, If the sidenote was inserted like this: Some text11. This is a sidenote. that appears in the middle of a sentence. How would that be presented in a screen reader? What can we do to improve it? Thank you, Beau On 29-Jul-05, at 5:51 AM, Bob Easton wrote: John Gruber has an articl

Re: [css-d] Sidenotes v Footnotes

2005-07-29 Thread Bob Easton
John Gruber has an article at "Daring Fireball" which shows another way of doing footnotes that has very simple markup and includes a return link that is both attractive and convenient. http://daringfireball.net/2005/07/footnotes I took a look at the accessibility of the techinhque here: http:

Re: [css-d] Sidenotes v Footnotes

2005-07-28 Thread Paul Novitski
At 05:16 PM 7/28/2005, Beau Hartshorne wrote: It seems to me that your technique requires the author to tweak the markup to accommodate the display to a greater extent than most people wish to do. I don't want to have to move my footnotes from one place to another in the HTML page to position t

Re: [css-d] Sidenotes v Footnotes

2005-07-28 Thread Beau Hartshorne
Hi Paul, Oops, there are no SMALL or SPAN tags in your example. You might have meant: No, the extra style is not needed at all. I had started with span/ small, but thought div/p was better. I forgot to remove the selector from my reply. It seems to me that your technique requires the au

Re: [css-d] Sidenotes v Footnotes

2005-07-28 Thread Paul Novitski
At 03:50 PM 7/28/2005, Beau Hartshorne wrote: Paul, Ben: To address the issue of overlapping elements, and very long sidenotes, it might make sense to catch these exceptions and do something like this: 1. Note one. 2. Note two. Body copy.1 More body copy.2 And a style rule like this:

Re: [css-d] Sidenotes v Footnotes

2005-07-28 Thread Beau Hartshorne
Paul, Gunlaug, Ben: thank you for your thoughtful replies. Gunlaug, that's an excellent idea. I had tried using relative widths (ems) to make this work, but that turned into a cross-browser mess. Your method is perfect. Paul, Ben: To address the issue of overlapping elements, and very lon

Re: [css-d] Sidenotes v Footnotes

2005-07-28 Thread Paul Novitski
At 09:08 AM 7/28/2005, Beau Hartshorne wrote: I thought of a way to build sidenotes in well-supported and valid CSS. I posted details on my log: Basically, I'm using absolute positioning to take a (or a ) out of flow, and to move it outsi

Re: [css-d] Sidenotes v Footnotes

2005-07-28 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Beau Hartshorne wrote: I'd appreciate feedback on the technique, and to know if anyone has any trouble with it in any browser. No problems with fixed width on container. I would use something like: .sidenote { position: absolute;

Re: [css-d] Sidenotes v Footnotes

2005-07-28 Thread Ben Curtis
On Jul 28, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Beau Hartshorne wrote: I thought of a way to build sidenotes in well-supported and valid CSS. I posted details on my log: Basically, I'm using absolute positioning to take a (or a ) out of flow, and to m

[css-d] Sidenotes v Footnotes

2005-07-28 Thread Beau Hartshorne
I thought of a way to build sidenotes in well-supported and valid CSS. I posted details on my log: Basically, I'm using absolute positioning to take a (or a ) out of flow, and to move it outside of some containing block where it can