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-Caveat Lector- One large pile of wreckage near the helipad is the Fort Myers
fire truck. It looks like a construction trailer or small building.

Another seems to indicate that the aerial photo was not taken
right away. If not, somebody might have pulled the good stuff
and left that trash pile off to the side of the area being combed
for evidence.

The high-g turn happened before the plane lined up on Columbia
Pike or just to the right or southeast of it. I've driven all over
and I have local maps. The high-g turn was over a number of
miles before the Pentagon. For two or more miles the final
approach was level, low, and straight.

One of the smaller plane witnesses was in Crystal City, which is
several miles away. There was an apartment building skimmed
by the plane on Courthouse Road at Columbia Pike, and a high-rise
towering above and to the left of the plane at Courthouse Road
along Columbia Pike. I don't want to hear somebody miles away
in Crystal City talking about the size of anything 911.

Even without the appearance and accounts of post-crash demolition
in New York and DC, it would be plausible that pre-crash demolition
might have taken out the wings of the Pentagon plane as you say.
Maybe that's what the helicopter behind the plane was doing.

The engine turbines spinning as usual while being thrust down hard
against the ground by the belly-flop landing might cause an explosion
of the turbine rotors.

-Bob

Brian Salter wrote:

on a complely different tack concerning the pentagon, could one explain
the anomalies by supposing that a real airliner did impact the
pentagon, but it was a substitute for the real flight 77, and
pre-rigged with explosives which detonated just before impact?  if
someone was going to frame up the pentagon hit, wouldn't it make sense
to try and control the damage to the building as much as possible? thus
if the plane were rigged with shaped charges in the right way, would
this deflect most of the force away from the building and leave the
controlled damage to be done by interior explosives (accounting as well
for the weird "exit holes")? could this account for a large pile of
wreckage over towards the helipad?  the shredded "confetti" debris? 
the piece of fuselage seemingly in the wrong place?  no visible damage
from the wings?

since the explosive "reactive armor" they use on obsolete tanks can
stop a hardened warhead from penetrating through armor, i'd imagine the
same principle could be used to stop the airliner from causing excess
damage to the pentagon (and i suppose that an empty, minimally-fueled
substitute airliner would be more manouverable to execute the difficult
hi-G turn and ground-level approach?)  also, i recall at least one
witness account which described a flash coming from the aircraft just
before the impact, which might be a clue if one believes that account.

i've never been convinced that the witness accounts and the downed
light poles could have been caused by anything other than a real
airliner or equivalent stand-in, and as bob notes the fly-by doesn't
seem at all possible.  but at the same time the pentagon damage and
wreckage anomalies seem compelling.  could a rigged, exploding dummy
flight 77 combined with explosives inside the building explain the
mystery?  or is there evidence which would contradict this?  i haven't
had a chance to work out this hypothesis in detail but i've been trying
to run it by people, so i thought i'd throw it out for consideration.

-brian



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