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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 13:59:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: M. KRAMER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [BCPOLITICS] Re: Replicate the "Laithwaite Effect" and win $1,000,000!
I understand that you are a rude jerk but the procedure is clear. J Doe
(or J Doevanoff) in St. Peterbersberg, the proverbial 90 lb. weakling, can
go to USP and ask to borrow a 50 lb. gyroscope. J Doevanoff then arranges
for a stage demonstration with JREF (the kind Eric Laithwaite did).
J lifts the 50 lb. with one hand with ease and above the head, thereby
demonstrating a paranormal ability, ie super-human strength. There is NO
SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION OF THIS which is why EL was shunned by the
scientific establishment. So it meets all the crieria of the JREF "Psychic
Challenge".
Z
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, M. KRAMER wrote:
> The answer to your question is this:
>
> If we receive an application from the person performing this feat, we will
> accept the application, and we will attempt to devise a mutually
> acceptable preliminary test protocol in which the results of the test will
> be undeniable to all observors.
>
> So the answer is NO. We will NOT award the prize to anyone who performs
> this feat. We will award the prize to anyone who APPLIES, agrees to a
> scientific test protocol, submits to scientific testing, PASSES the
> preliminary test, and then passes the final and formal test.
>
> Understand yet?
>
> M. KRAMER
> JREF ONE MILLION DOLLAR PARANORMAL CHALLENGE DEPT.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ====================================================
>
> > Eric Laithwaite died in 1997 but the "Laithwaite Effect" is there for
> > anyone
> > to replicate and claim $1,000,000. See
> > http://www.alternativescience.com/eric-laithwaite.htm
> >
> > All USP for example would have to do is build a 50 lb. groscope as EL did
> > and get a not so strong person to lift it with ease under controlled
> > conditions with are agreeable to JR. This would be a para-normal
> > demonstration by the JREF rules: a para-normal demonstration of
> > SUPER-HUMAN
> > STRENGTH, AND/OR LEVITATION.
> >
> > Now the JREF rules prohibit even the demonstration of a "spooky"
> > phenomenon
> > from claiming the prize IF ESTABLISHED SCIENCE CAN EXPLAIN IT. Thus spooky
> > quantum effects cannot claim the prize. But the Royal Institution of
> > scientists shunned EL's demonstration because ESTABLISHED SCIENCE COULD
> > NOT
> > EXPLAIN IT.
> >
> > EL said all he had for explanation was that a gyroscope "COULD MOVE MASS
> > THROUGH SPACE" and that this was "A FORCE THROUGH SPACE WITHOUT A ROCKET".
> >
> > POC's role in this is just to facilitate the process of claiming the
> > $1,000,000 so unless Kramer can give a reason as to why a replication of
> > the
> > EL effect would NOT be given $1,000,000 I am going to announce that the
> > race
> > is on.
> >
> > The first person to replicate the Laithwaite Effect wins $1,000,000. Right
> > Kramer?
> >
> > Zandu Goldbar
> > $$$$$$$$$$$
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "M. KRAMER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Party of Citizens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 1:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: from Kramer, JREF
> >
> >
> >> Sir, you are not listening to me. Try your hardest now to read what I am
> >> writing to you, and understand it.
> >>
> >> Once again now:
> >>
> >> Ask him to APPLY !!!!
> >>
> >> READ THE RULES !!!
> >>
> >> M. KRAMER
> >> JREF ONE MILLION DOLLAR PARANORMAL CHALLENGE DEPT.
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> =================================================================
> >>
> >>
> >> > The man does not claim to "float" or LEVITATE. The OBJECT, ie the
> >> > gyroscope is what "floats". The man's supernatural power is that of
> >> > supernatural strength because he can then lift a 50 lb object over his
> >> > head with ease and with one hand as Laithwaite in his 70's did.
> >> >
> >> > So you can call it a demonstration of supernatural human strength
> >> > or supernatural levitation. Since USP does not seem to be willing,
> >> maybe
> >> > Laithwaite himself can be contacted by Discovery to redo it. Would you
> >> > accept that?
> >> >
> >> > Z
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, 23 Jun 2004, M. KRAMER wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Performing this feat at some university, regardless of the
> >> credentials
> >> >> thereof, would NOT win the JREF prize.
> >> >>
> >> >> The first thing that needs to be done is this: THE PERSON PERFORMING
> > THE
> >> >> DEMONSTRATION MUST APPLY. No application, no prize.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please consult our website (www.randi.org) for the complete prize
> > rules.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please also be advised to YOU may NOT apply on behalf of someone
> >> else.
> >> >> The person possessing the alleged "power" must apply.
> >> >>
> >> >> There are NO exceptions to this rule or any other.
> >> >>
> >> >> Once an application has been submitted according to the prize rules,
> >> we
> >> >> can proceed with this matter, enter into negotiations that would
> >> >> determine
> >> >> a mutually agreeable test protocol, and then set a time and place for
> >> >> the
> >> >> test, which would be conducted under stringent scientific conditions.
> >> >> There would be no room for trickery. This is OUR area of expertise.
> >> >>
> >> >> We'll be very happy if your man can float. Then we ALL become famous.
> >> >>
> >> >> M. KRAMER
> >> >> JREF ONE MILLION DOLLAR PARANORMAL CHALLENGE DEPT.
> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> =======================================================================
> >> >> > First I would like to invite Professor Kashinov to repeat the
> >> >> Laithwaite
> >> >> > demonstration at U St. Petersberg (hopefully USP will award a grant
> >> >> for
> >> >> > it). It would of course have to be done under controlled and
> >> >> scientific
> >> >> > conditions and that would be the main difference. If Laithwaite was
> >> >> > not hoaxing us, the gyroscope is a powerful anti-gravity or
> > levitation
> >> >> > device. I doubt that there is yet a scientific THEORY to explain
> > this.
> >> >> But
> >> >> > your $1,000,000 Psychic Challenge does not dispute that some future
> >> >> > explanations may be found for paranormal phenomena ... it only
> >> >> questions
> >> >> > whether such things as precognition, telepathy, levitation etc.
> >> >> HAPPEN.
> >> >> > If Professor Kashinov and USP can demonstrate levitation under your
> >> >> > conditions, I think they deserve $1,000,000 and they can allocate a
> >> >> > portion of that to Laithwaite et al who have helped get them to
> >> that
> >> >> > award, accordingly.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Z
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Tue, 22 Jun 2004, M. KRAMER wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> YES, sir, a successful demonstration of levitation would most
> >> >> certainly
> >> >> >> qualify you for the JREF ONE MILLION DOLLAR PARANORMAL CHALLENGE.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Please direct ALL future correespondence regarding the prize, your
> >> >> >> application, your claim and all other things prize-related, to ME,
> > at
> >> >> >> this
> >> >> >> email address. I administer the prize and conduct all
> >> correspondence
> >> >> to
> >> >> >> that effect.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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