-Caveat Lector- -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [prj] Crown, Grand Orient, etc. Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:56:58 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Test drive popular Income Tax Preparation Software and Get a Free Gift! http://www.alpinenterprises.com/ Try a leading tax return program which has helped millions do their taxes quickly, easily and accurately. Those who posit a "Crown" vs. Grand Orient Masonry scenerio for a battle for control of globalist insitutions present an interesting case. I have traditionally believed this scenerio, just as I believe that within the "Old Order" may be a battle between its Vatican and Rockefeller power centers. Obviously, there are banker-alligned globalists and "human rights" globalists such as Chomsky, though there is also over-lap here. But, we must admit that the "human rights" argument has often been applied selectively, and sometimes as a tool of mega-political factions who have pulled the strings on movements without even the leadership really understanding what was occuring. Within America, ostensibly pro-"human rights" movements (tied in a sense to Grand Orient Masonry, at least philosophically), such as prison reform movements, gun owners movements, and civil liberties movements, work against the state for specific ends. However, the geo-political agendas of their leadership are often in line with the Empire of the City, even as they are in themselves laudible. There is a battle within the globalist movement, perhaps a four-way one between Rockefeller, Vatican, as well as Crown and Grand Orient factions. This I have covered ad nauseum in months and years past. Within the four-way split can be another level of contention; two general trends within the globalist movement, which are both arrayed against national autarchy. One is the banker-controlled New World Order forces, centered primarily on London and New York financial centers. here we can certainly see Crown-Rockefeller cooperation. But we also have the gadflies; Vatican and Grand Orient globalists who are religiously motivated and often quite hostile to financial controllers. The Vatican is considered "conservative", but has been kept so by Emperors of times past and by modern right-wing orders, including the American CIA. In its essense, Vatican power is often revolutionary, and maintained a strongly centralist role under medieval feudalism. Church power is ideally supposed to supercede State power, and the loss of negative liberties more akin to the loss of certain freedoms under revolutionary regimes than under conservative monarchies or oligarchies. Thus there is a commonality between traditional Catholicism and radical Grand Orient philosophies on some level, even as they are radically opposed on others. Opposition to banker control of the New World Order may be one commonality. Thus, we can see forces cooperating across appearant ideological lines, as the conservative London bankers and the radicals of Europe did in the nineteenth century, or the Czar of Russia and the Italian revolutionaries. Right now, factions are being superceded by institutionalized control, something I have overlooked in times past. Thus we really can see a coalition around financial oligarchicalism on the one hand, and "human rights" ideological globalism on the other, now that certain resiting forces (the Iron Curtain, powerful Arab resistance, and the Empires of Old) have been removed, or appearantly removed. As we have observed with Chinese bellicose nationalism, which the financialist believe they can footsie with, sometimes there are little "surprises" which are not so little. Right and Left globalists both agree that organizations such as the UN and "World Law" courts are necessary. There is further convergence even there. They have both failed to consider that perhaps these institutions can obtain a life of their own, and turn against their creators. Thus we may see a kind of convergence which is more institutional than covert, a kind of structural change in which all loose out, and bureaucracy itself wins. Not only a triumph for conspiracy, but a very boring one. For now, nations are intact. The globalization is more economic, to the chagrin of the more ideological Federalists within Left-wing as well as Vatican circles. The Dalai Lama gets the media attention, but China gets the trade deals. However, a tide might be shifting. With a call for democratization within central banking in Foreign Affairs (!), a blatantly globalistic issue for that matter, might mean that the nature of globalism is changing. Old familiar alliances (Crown versus Rockefeller, Vatican vs. Grand Orient, militia vs. government, etc.) may be shifting as convergence seems imminent. Convergence? Well, it has appeared to be imminent before. But how 'bout that China?! They really are something. They seem to be controlling a once Anglo-phile Clinton. Do they have something on him? We can say that convergence and New World Order implementation may still have some surpirse hurtles. MHO. But I don't know no'tin... Please Patronize PRJ's Current Sponsor: http://www.alpinenterprises.com/ A Growing Selection of A-albionic's Books Can Be Browsed and Purchased Conveniently in the Shopping Cart at http://www.alpinenterprises.com/webcart/a-albionic.htm DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. 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