-Caveat Lector- > Saying that Fred Hutter condones rape is an extremely silly statement
"Veritas odium parit". Fred Hutter gave us the distinction between "deserving" and "undeserving" poor and it underpins the Campbell-Martin-MHR gestapo. The undeserving poor, including undeserving poor women are threatened with being put out on the street and ARE put out on the street. THAT IS TRUE. ************************************************************************ YOU TELL US - WHAT IS LIKELY TO HAPPEN TO WOMEN SLEEPING IN ALLEYS? ************************************************************************ Just answer that because as far as Fred, Campbell and Martin are concerned, that is what those undeserving poor women deserve! and > likely libelous if he didn't have a sense of humour. Oh PULLLLEEEEASE ... sue POC, Fred. "Make our day" > > You are going overboard, much as Kevin Annett does over Chief Ed John. Veritas odium parit. > You have really good stuff which becomes redundant and suspect when you > come out with statements which are highly unlikely. Answer the question above and that will tell us all about "LIKELIHOOD". But Fred is a cowardly fascist who has crawled back under his rock with Premier Creepy Campbell and PM Creepy Martin. > ingram Zandu Goldbar Learned Elder of Zion and POC Financier $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Party of Citizens > To: elvira52 > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 11:21 AM > Subject: [INGRAM] Fascist Fred Hutter Endorses Rape of Undeserving Poor > Women > > > On Sun, 5 Dec 2004, elvira52 wrote: > >> It has been acceptable all through history to hate and scapegoat this >> kind >> of person or that. Today only the UNDESERVING POOR can be hated by the >> Freddies. >> >> This I think Is Sad it's time for Good change and Freddies can do it we >> have many here they really don't think they can change they have done so >> much wrong but I don't feel that way I believe many of then can let's >> just see. I sent this to one that I know he can do it and in My Heart I >> know he will right Mr. M. > > > It was Fred Hutter who gave us the "deserving vs. undeserving poor" > distinction when he emerged from under his favourite slimy rock as an > apologist for Premier Campbell. > > Now have a look at the human rights links to the POC URL below. Some of > our complainants are women. One woman for example said she had been > threatened with a disconinuance of IA if she did not file a tax return > (though her physical handicap made that very difficult and she had no > income outside IA). Another woman said she was threatened with > discontinuance of IA if she did not go back to school. > > IA Discontinuance -> Eviction + Homelessness > > What do women imagine when they are threatened with homelessness? > > RAPE > > There are at least 20 men sleeping on the streets of Vancouver for every > woman. Rape is obviously a high risk and this government of Martin, > Campbell and Campbell either knows it or should know it. > > > So why not the "rape rooms" that President Bush harangues the world about, > Fred Hutter? Rape rooms for women victims of the Martin-Campbell-Campbell > gestapo; "cruel and unusual punishment" for women who have committed > neither crime nor misdemeanour. > > This is Canadian "Justice". > >> Peace > > Not for long if this garbage regime of Libertarian-Fascists keeps going. > It was to rid the world of this kind of tyranny that we lost so many > of our relatives through the last century and we will carry forward their > war against tyranny and injustice as is necessary. > > Until then I fly my Canadian flag upside down with a swastika on it. > > Z > >> Elvira >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Party of Citizens >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 8:27 PM >> Subject: Re: Hummmmmmmm [INGRAM] Is Fred Hutter a Fascist? >> >> >> > if it wasn't for the war issue I would ask is this not like America >> sounds >> > like America the way they treat people I say to myself there has to >> be a >> > Place they doesn't have this problem. I know America has it because >> of >> > slave labor they don't like to help people understand each other >> it's seem >> > America love to teach Hate! >> >> It has been acceptable all through history to hate and scapegoat this >> kind >> of person or that. Today only the UNDESERVING POOR can be hated by the >> Freddies. >> >> POC >> >> not America but the people in charge!?. >> > >> > >> > The World needs Good Change if we stay on this path in the end like >> many >> > from the past has lived to regret their action this we must all >> remember >> > in making discussion witch affect others. >> > >> > I bet if my Grandparents was alive they would have done many things >> > differently why not do something great in life for all people. >> > >> > >> > Try it You just may like it...........if the shoe fit. >> > >> > >> > Peace >> > >> > Elvira >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Party of Citizens >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 6:59 PM >> > Subject: [INGRAM] Is Fred Hutter a Fascist? >> > >> > >> > What is YOUR answer, Fred? >> > >> > POC >> > >> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 15:53:39 -0800 (PST) >> > From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Cc: Carnegie Newsletter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Subject: [UNIVERSALHUMANRIGHTS] Extra-Judicial Execution in BC >> > >> > >> > Dear Mr. Hawes: >> > >> > Further to your exchange with McDaniels in Carnegie Newsletter of >> Dec. >> > 1/04, and the page 6 article titled "FASCISM" may we ask you one >> > question? >> > The article on Fascism says that in 1939 "anti-social elements" >> were >> > registered "for the purposes of forced labour". But with poor >> > anti-social >> > elements like political dissidents, you can only apply effective >> > punishment by using corporal punishment. Otherwise they have no >> > material assets to take away as punishment. Thus "comply or die" >> > effectively becomes the slogan of Fascist forced labour. >> > >> > TRUE OR FALSE, Mr. Hawes: >> > >> > "The street is systematically used by government as an instrument >> of >> > torture and extra-judicial execution for anti-social elements in >> BC >> > according to an implicit comply or die policy in the interest of >> forced >> > labour." >> > >> > A straight-forward question. All you have to do is reply: false, >> > outlandish etc. Or will your silence reveal the correct answer? >> > >> > POC >> > >> > <http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens> >> > Citizens for the "inherent dignity and worth of the human >> person" >> > Quoted words from UDHR/CAT >> > >> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:37:19 -0800 (PST) >> > From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Subject: Re: Mayor Campbell! [INGRAM] Re: >> [WORLD_URBAN_FORUM_VANCOUVER] >> > Elvira's City ... No Homelessness (fwd) >> > >> > >> > The proverbial bottom line seems to be that there are a number of >> > affordable solutions to the problem of homelessness in Vancouver >> but the >> > powers that be don't want them. You, Mayor Dr. Campbell do not >> want >> > them. >> > Correct us if we are wrong. >> > >> > If VCH is honest though it will start keeping files on >> > homeless-exposure-related-illness. Even the guy I met in Crab Park >> last >> > week with blisters on his feet was manifesting a minor symptom of >> > exposure-related illness. I had a few band aids in my pocket which >> I >> > gave >> > him so he could hobble off to Pender Clinic. The blisters were >> caused by >> > his walking the streets as a homeless person. The caretaker at >> Crab Park >> > had let him sleep under the overhang at the public washrooms in >> the >> > park, >> > for a while anyway. >> > >> > Citizen X below should also be on the record at Pender as >> suffering from >> > exposure-homeless-related-illness and the prescription WAS the >> Lookout >> > Shelter which is where he now gets a warm dry bed and three square >> meals >> > a >> > day. What else could cure him? >> > >> > If he has a drug or alcohol problem that is another matter and >> that >> > requires different treatment. Suppose then he gets sent to an >> alcohol or >> > drug residential centre after Lookout. He still is NOT ALLOWED TO >> RETURN >> > TO THE STREET. >> > >> > THE STREET IS NOT A PLACE TO LIVE - IT IS A PLACE TO DIE. And that >> is >> > how >> > the sickos in power now use it. They use it to torture the >> anti-social >> > elements to death. DENY IT IF YOU DARE, Mayor Dr. Mengele >> Campbell. >> > >> > In my best Clint Eastwood accent ... "Make my day!" >> > >> > POC >> > >> > <http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens> >> > Citizens for the "inherent dignity and worth of the human >> person" >> > Quoted words from UDHR/CAT >> > >> > On Sun, 5 Dec 2004, Party of Citizens wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > > Jean Claude Van Damme WOW..............., >> > > > >> > > > I love myself some Van Damme and next to him You party you are >> one >> > of a >> > > > kind as my friend L. This would be great to involve someone >> like Mr. >> > Van >> > > > Damme My writing and understanding will gut better soon I pray >> Oh >> > How I >> > > > would love to work with you. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > 2.One way it could happen in Canada is through the public >> health >> > doctors >> > > > PRESCRIBING HEALTHY SHELTER for homeless people. How else can >> they >> > cure >> > > > homelessness-related and exposure-related illness? >> > > > >> > > > Great Idea I Think. >> > > >> > > Methinks VCH is already doing it. Just met a guy who was sent to >> a >> > shelter >> > > (a good one) by VCH, Pender Clinic... a prescription? >> > > >> > > POC >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > 3.Mayor Dr. Campbell says healthy shelters cannot spring up >> > overnight. BUT >> > > > THEY CAN. This one is for the mayor and this is for yourself >> and Van >> > Damme >> > > > and all Like you may God Bless you all This one I couldn't >> have >> > said it >> > > > Better myself but I Shall learn. >> > > > >> > > > 4.There are all kinds of toxic things when one is sleeping on >> the >> > street. >> > > > Microbes, chemicals etc. >> > > > >> > > > This is soooooo true I live in Toxicants but it's worse coming >> from >> > cars >> > > > and the Building and just another reason to stop homelessness >> I took >> > on 3 >> > > > other homeless people. You know the Government agencies have a >> lot >> > to do >> > > > with this as well as some of the people. >> > > > >> > > > seeing what you are doing I feel there is hope and to your >> Mayor >> > please >> > > > keep trying with people like party in your corner you will be >> a sure >> > > > winner. >> > > > >> > > > To a Country that said no to WAR Oh How I Respect and love You >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > PEACE >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > E >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > From: Party of Citizens >> > > > To: elvira52 >> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; >> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; >> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; >> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; >> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; >> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > ; >> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 1:28 PM >> > > > Subject: [INGRAM] Re: [WORLD_URBAN_FORUM_VANCOUVER] Elvira's >> City >> > ... No >> > > > Homelessness (fwd) >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO SLEEP ON THE STREET AND NOBODY IS >> > REQUIRED TO >> > > > > SLEEP ON THE STREET. >> > > > > >> > > > > Wow This would be very good Party and it's good to hear >> from >> > you, >> > > > again I >> > > > > wonder Could this happen >> > > > >> > > > One way it could happen in Canada is through the public >> health >> > doctors >> > > > PRESCRIBING HEALTHY SHELTER for homeless people. How else >> can they >> > cure >> > > > homelessness-related and exposure-related illness? >> > > > >> > > > That prescription alone is not going to cure alcoholism and >> mental >> > > > illness >> > > > and other conditions which the homeless may have but it >> cures what >> > it is >> > > > meant to cure. >> > > > >> > > > Mayor Dr. Campbell says healthy shelters cannot spring up >> > overnight. BUT >> > > > THEY CAN. Some of our finest citizens spend months at sea >> > sleeping in >> > > > small berths and working outside those berths by day. Barges >> with >> > berths >> > > > can be built at naval shipyards in your country and towed up >> to >> > Canada. >> > > > >> > > > There is lots of shoreline here at Vancouver's Harbour >> Centre. >> > Jean >> > > > Claude >> > > > Van Damme is sympathetic with the homeless and he has a >> million $ >> > plus >> > > > apartment at Coal Harbour in Vancouver. How about a Jean >> Claude >> > public >> > > > endorsement of his new neighbours? >> > > > >> > > > it seem the way they are Building there want be >> > > > > many places any one can sleep. >> > > > >> > > > Yes there are quite a few variations on this. Mayor Campbell >> says >> > no to >> > > > tents but people sleeping in the cold and rain can have >> their >> > lives >> > > > saved >> > > > by tents. Are they supposed to die in the rain while proper >> and >> > healthy >> > > > apartments are built? >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Toxicant all over the place I may not see >> > > > > this but pray for it no matter what. >> > > > >> > > > There are all kinds of toxic things when one is sleeping on >> the >> > street. >> > > > Microbes, chemicals etc. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 2.Here in BC, Prime Minister Martin, Mayor Campbell and >> Premier >> > > > Campbell >> > > > > use >> > > > > the street as a systematic instrument for torture and >> murder. >> > > > > >> > > > > This I name People that runs Government organizations the >> Friend >> > and >> > > > > family >> > > > > business that don't really care about their own just >> themselves >> > and a >> > > > few >> > > > > lap dogs? >> > > > >> > > > Mayor Campbell complains about being a "punching bag". As >> soon as >> > he >> > > > comes >> > > > clean POC stops hitting. >> > > > >> > > > > 3.Justice must >> > > > > be SEEN to be done. So let's have Peter Mansbridge, >> > quintessential >> > > > male >> > > > > media whore of CBC TV do the filming. >> > > > > >> > > > > I Think I will do my filming that is! >> > > > >> > > > The denial of political reality is our first problem. They >> say >> > > > alcoholics >> > > > use denial but that is nothing compared to political denial. >> Maybe >> > a CBC >> > > > film on someone SENTENCED to die by sleeping on the street >> by the >> > > > gestapo >> > > > of Martin, Campbell and Campbell and dying AS SENTENCED will >> > finally >> > > > make >> > > > the point. We have the person. Does CBC have the camera? Or >> are >> > they too >> > > > cowardly to face politial reality? >> > > > >> > > > Maybe someone can get an email through to Jean Claude. In >> one >> > movie of >> > > > his, he is fighting gangsters who use the homeless for sport >> by >> > selling >> > > > hunting licenses to the rich so they can hunt and kill the >> poor. >> > > > >> > > > Here in Vancouver, the gaangsters are not so sporting. The >> MHR >> > Gestapo >> > > > uses slow and deadly methods of torture. It starts with >> > psychological >> > > > torture and becomes physical when POC dissidents are sent >> out onto >> > the >> > > > street die an agonizing death. "Cruel and unusual >> punishment" is >> > more >> > > > amusing to our gangsters especially when used for purposes >> of >> > political >> > > > persecution. >> > > > >> > > > if I every get better but how can I >> > > > > when the air in Florida is so bad I have the need to Leave >> > indoor >> > > > outdoor >> > > > > Toxicant!?. Question is where is safe is their really such >> thing >> > these >> > > > > days? >> > > > >> > > > The public health people know exactly what toxic mold etc. >> do to >> > health. >> > > > Don't assume that "accidents" in public health are always >> > accidental. >> > > > >> > > > > This took a Rainbow all the destruction of Countries >> Cities, and >> > > > States >> > > > > Why? >> > > > > we can't take a thing with us after we are gone. So why >> not stop >> > and >> > > > help >> > > > > another, Homelessness should be a crime against all that >> holds >> > Office >> > > > and >> > > > > put to shame. >> > > > >> > > > Here in Canada we have less than 100,000 homeless and >> probably >> > 50,000. >> > > > And >> > > > are we so stupid as to believe that 600 Canadians who have >> homes >> > cannot >> > > > afford to pay for one 400-500 sq. ft. room for a homeless >> person? >> > > > >> > > > The manufactured home plant outside Vancouver at Aggasiz >> turns out >> > units >> > > > like this overnight. Literally OVERNIGHT. And the homeless >> can be >> > taken >> > > > off the streets by police etc. and moved to trailer parks >> set up >> > in the >> > > > Fraser Valley for the different needs of the different >> > sub-populations >> > > > of >> > > > homeless. So there you have another of many options. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > You should see how many homeless is in America and there >> are >> > more to >> > > > come >> > > > > may God have mercy on us all to help stop this travisty. >> > > > >> > > > IT COULD BE STOPPED OVERNIGHT. It is the WILL which is >> lacking and >> > not >> > > > the >> > > > WAY. >> > > > >> > > > Torturing the homeless to death is a sick and sadistic kind >> of >> > > > entertainment to the psycho bastards who now govern. We have >> > irrefutable >> > > > proof that they are "personally killing the poor" re the >> > Mansbridge CBC >> > > > comment to Jack Layton, MP at Library Square in Vancouver. >> All we >> > need >> > > > now >> > > > is a CBC TV film crew. >> > > > >> > > > POC >> > > > >> > > > > Peace >> > > > > >> > > > > Elvira >> > > > > >> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > > From: "Party of Citizens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 2:22 PM >> > > > > Subject: [WORLD_URBAN_FORUM_VANCOUVER] Elvira's City ... >> No >> > > > Homelessness >> > > > > (fwd) >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > > > >> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 11:16:57 -0800 (PST) >> > > > >> From: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], >> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > >> Subject: [WORLD_URBAN_FORUM_VANCOUVER] Elvira's City ... >> No >> > > > Homelessness >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Gosh, my mouse ears are turning pink. Thank you for the >> > compliment. >> > > > >> Since >> > > > >> you have experienced homelessness, let's talk about >> Elvira's >> > City in >> > > > >> which >> > > > >> nobody will be homeless. In other words, one of the >> slogans >> > will be: >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> ************************************************************************ >> > > > >> >> > > > >> NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO SLEEP ON THE STREET AND NOBODY IS >> > REQUIRED TO >> > > > >> SLEEP ON THE STREET. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> ************************************************************************ >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Here in BC, Prime Minister Martin, Mayor Campbell and >> Premier >> > > > Campbell >> > > > >> use >> > > > >> the street as a systematic instrument for torture and >> murder. >> > But the >> > > > >> next >> > > > >> time they try to torture one of the POC'sters to death >> for >> > taking a >> > > > >> stand >> > > > >> on Charter rights and human rights we are going to film >> it. >> > Justice >> > > > must >> > > > >> be SEEN to be done. So let's have Peter Mansbridge, >> > quintessential >> > > > male >> > > > >> media whore of CBC TV do the filming. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Now for the details on what police or others do in >> Elvira's >> > City when >> > > > >> they >> > > > >> find a person sleeping on the street which means dying on >> the >> > street. >> > > > >> How >> > > > >> do we work out the details of this? >> > > > >> >> > > > >> IT IS SOLVEABLE and WE WILL SOLVE IT RIGHT HERE. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> I have cc'd some CMHC people (sort of Canada's HUD). Can >> you >> > copy in >> > > > >> some >> > > > >> HUD as well? >> > > > >> >> > > > >> There will be thousands at WUF Vancouver in 2006 from all >> over >> > the >> > > > >> world. >> > > > >> Martin, Campbell and Campbell have a choice. They can put >> > forward >> > > > >> Elvira's >> > > > >> City as a remedy or they can show "The Great Canadian >> Snuff >> > Film" on >> > > > how >> > > > >> to torture an innocent person to death, the Canadian way. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Z >> > > > >> >> > > > >> <http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens> >> > > > >> Citizens for the "inherent dignity and worth of the >> human >> > person" >> > > > >> Quoted words from UDHR/CAT >> > > > >> >> > > > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > > > >> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 12:20:38 -0500 >> > > > >> From: elvira52 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > >> To: Party of Citizens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > >> Subject: Re: [INGRAM] RE: [Biofuel] Alternative Cities >> > Footprint >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Oh How I miss you, >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Keep up the good work for there's not many like you I >> love you >> > for >> > > > that. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> E >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > >> From: Party of Citizens >> > > > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; >> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > ; >> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; >> > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]@yahoogroups.com >> > > > >> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 5:30 PM >> > > > >> Subject: [INGRAM] RE: [Biofuel] Alternative Cities >> Footprint >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Cities-built-anew are conceptualized first and all >> citizens >> > can be >> > > > >> players >> > > > >> at this level. It will be interesting to see what sort >> of >> > conceptual >> > > > >> plans >> > > > >> are presented for WUF V in 2006. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> <http://www.geocities.com/WORLD_URBAN_FORUM_VANCOUVER> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> > > > >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > On >> > > > >> > Behalf >> > > > >> >> Of MH >> > > > >> >> Sent: 20 November 2004 16:59 >> > > > >> >> Subject: [Biofuel] Alternative Cities Footprint >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > SNIP >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> >> A British environmental group BioRegional is being >> > credited >> > > > >> >> for laying the foundations for this novel way of >> living. >> > > > >> >> It pioneered the ''BedZed'' community in south >> London, >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > I have known Poran Desai from BioRegional Development >> group >> > for >> > > > some >> > > > >> > years. I've been to visit BedZed site a year or two >> back. >> > A very >> > > > >> > impressive, fine working example of how housing can be >> made >> > much >> > > > more >> > > > >> > sustainable in a manner not too radical for current >> western >> > > > 'tastes'. >> > > > >> > Bioregional have been involved in quite a few >> interesting >> > projects >> > > > >> over >> > > > >> > the years, sustainable local charcoal to national DIY >> chain, >> > local >> > > > >> paper >> > > > >> > recycling, hemp fibre use research and development. >> All >> > > > interesting >> > > > >> > stuff - try a web search for "bioregional development >> group" >> > > > and/or >> > > > >> > "bedzed". The bedzed site uses woodchip gas to run a >> petrol >> > CHP >> > > > >> plant >> > > > >> > that along with solar on site provides power for the >> whole >> > estate >> > > > >> with >> > > > >> > the excess being sold to the grid. Private car use is >> > dissuaded >> > > > by >> > > > >> > minimal parking availability, a car club is run on the >> > estate and >> > > > >> there >> > > > >> > were also EVs. I recently noticed on their site that >> Pooran >> > had >> > > > got >> > > > >> > himself a diesel powered sports car and run on >> biodiesel >> > down to >> > > > the >> > > > >> > proposed Portugal site. >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> >> where houses, for instance, were built to meet new >> > > > >> >> environment-friendly standards, including the >> > > > >> >> complete use of renewable energy for power and >> heating. >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> In addition to Portugal, other areas in Europe, >> Australia, >> > > > >> >> Britain, the United States and South Africa have >> been >> > > > >> >> identified to create these communities as part of >> > > > >> >> the pioneering effort. >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> ''Even the authorities in China are interested in >> building >> > a >> > > > >> >> 'One Planet Living' community,'' Goncalves told IPS. >> > > > >> >> ''The details are to be decided but we are talking >> of >> > > > >> >> a city in effect.'' >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Once the first phase is achieved, WWF will launch >> the >> > > > >> >> broader and more global second phase by 2007, said >> > Goncalves. >> > > > >> >> ''In phase two, we hope to get countries in Asia, >> Africa, >> > > > >> >> Eastern Europe and Latin America interested.'' >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Such communities will be pivotal to >> > > > >> >> ''undo the damage we have done to the planet,'' he >> added. >> > > > >> >> ''We need to find solutions to avoid the crisis >> emerging >> > > > >> >> from the current unsustainable lifestyles.'' >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> The revolution in living that the WWF hopes to >> unleash >> > > > >> >> through this plan stems from the disturbing reports >> it has >> > > > >> >> compiled of the earth's resources being destroyed by >> the >> > > > >> >> modern style of life. >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> In its 'Living Planet Report 2004,' released weeks >> ahead >> > of >> > > > >> >> the Bangkok conference, WWF revealed that humanity's >> > demand on >> > > > >> >> the resources had exceeded the earth's supply >> capacity >> > since >> > > > >> >> the mid-1980s, with North America and Europe leading >> the >> > > > >> >> assault on the planet's limited resources. >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> The average U.S. citizen requires 10 hectares of the >> > planet >> > > > >> >> to support his or her lifestyle, while the average >> > > > >> >> European requires over five hectares, the report >> noted. >> > > > >> >> By contrast, the average citizen in >> > > > >> >> Africa draws on about one hectare of the earth's >> resources >> > to >> > > > live. >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> The differences in these ecological footprints - >> which are >> > > > >> >> caused by high consumption patterns in the developed >> world >> > - are >> > > > >> >> starker when seen in another light. According to the >> > report, the >> > > > >> >> average footprint of a person today is nearly 2.2 >> > hectares, >> > > > >> >> which is in excess of the 1.8 hectares of land for >> > > > >> >> natural resources available for each resident of the >> > planet. >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> At this rate, >> > > > >> >> ''we need 1.2 planets to sustain our collective >> > lifestyles,'' >> > > > said >> > > > >> >> Marten. >> > > > >> >> ''Sustainable housing is one response to it, but you >> > cannot have >> > > > >> >> one blueprint for the whole world. We must work with >> > > > >> >> local communities, local architects.'' (END/2004) >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> World Conservation Congress >> > > > >> >> http://www.iucn.org/congress/index.cfm >> > > > >> >> World Wildlife Fund >> > > > >> >> http://www.worldwildlife.org >> > > > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> > > > >> >> Biofuel mailing list >> > > > >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > >> >> http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> > > > >> >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): >> > > > >> >> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> -- >> > > > >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> > > > >> >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> > > > >> >> Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release >> Date: >> > > > >> 19/11/2004 >> > > > >> >> >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > -- >> > > > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message. >> > > > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> > > > >> > Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.1 - Release >> Date: >> > > > 19/11/2004 >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > > > >> > Biofuel mailing list >> > > > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > >> > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> > > > >> > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): >> > > > >> > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> In August, 2001, the popular Ingram show was cancelled, >> > suddenly and >> > > > >> without explanation. 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