-Caveat Lector- Teo One Thousand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 4/24/99 3:49:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > << > It might not be "logical" to disregard the idea of "real" aliens from far > > away planets coming to visit us here on earth, but it certainly is not > > logical to assume that such is the case also. I would say that it is well > in > > the realm of possibility and since activities of the like have been done in > > the past it is extremely likely that such is being done again, in that the > > Military Industrial Complex is doing all the UFO flying, and abducting, and > > mind control, and genetic manipulation/experimentation. I am open to the > > idea of other life but in the absence of evidence am not inclined to think > it > > "real". That is not to say that there aren't aliens, just that I don't > THINK > > there are because of the lack of evidence. Incidentally WHY would any > aliens > > want to come here and mess around with us when we are insignificant, > > fatalistic, and decidedly uncivilized? It implies that we are worthwhile, > > and I certainly have seen LITTLE evidence that that is true. > > Teo1000 > > Okay let's follow this logic of us being so insignificant that other higher > evolved forms wouldn't waste time with us. We experiment on animal, > manipulate them genetically, breed them, cross breed them, etc. All of this > is supposedly done under the guise of "Helping them" either to survive, > breed, or produce more milk, better meat, etc. So you see to may animals and > plants are considered beneath us and of no significance, yet we do to them > the same things that other higher life forms do to us, so your logic quickly > falters. As for not seeing andy evidence that other higher, non-human life > forms exist and are in fact here, visiting and interfering in our progress as > a species, you have not ACCEPTED the evidence. There is a difference. The > evidence is the abductions, the implants the craft in our skies daily. Yes, > some of the craft, some of these abductions are done by people from out > government, the larger percentage are real, but it is much safer to believe > that ALL UFOs and ALL ABDUCTIONS and ALL CRAFT are man-made. By believing > that you can continue to perpetuate the system and not understand that the > reason we humans are "significant or of interest" to higher life forms both > human and non-human is the ability we have to CREATE REALITY THROUGH > INTENTION AND THOUGHT. > Also we have eternity, because our lives are in fact not dependent on > biological or physical life, our life continues after our bodies die. And if > these non-human higher life forms can successfully splice our genetics with > theirs they can have it as well, and thereby continue forever enslaving more > planets and more species just like ours. > > >> > > My logic does not falter. We DO experiment on lower life forms and > genetically change them, BUT they have value to us in that we EAT them or USE > them. Now before you say that this could be true for alien visitors too let > me say also that we aren't traveling many LIGHT-YEARS to do so. We are doing > it right here. The fact that you acknowledge that some abductions and some > UFO's are secret governmental craft conducting illegal and illicit > experimentation on people should be enough to destroy your argument since if > we have the "same" technology as the "aliens" why do we not get rid of them? > Are we in league with "them"? That is another can of worms all together. It > is much more logical to assume that 1) if aliens do exist and they are coming > here that they are different from us in at least SOME ways. 2) sampling and > genetic experimentation would not need to be carried out for years and years > increasing exposure and running the risk of discovery it would be done all at > once if they followed any logic, especially since it must be an enormous > operation to send the ships here from such vast distances in the first place. > 3) their testing would have to be to find out what we are like and they could > do that with a relatively few samples. 4) it is MUCH more logical to assume > that beings of the same genetic makeup (in other words HUMANS from the good > old Earth) are conducting the tests, since they have not far to go, the thing > can be ongoing with little additional fear of exposure since they can be > operated from military bases completely out of sight of the public, and that > the testing would be such that it would benefit them and their nefarious > schemes, genetic manipulation and germ warfare etc. > There may be aliens but they would have little reason to KEEP coming here > OVER and OVER. I am much more inclined to believe that if aliens ever did > come it would be a quick peek to see what was going on and that would be it. > UNLESS, they are like us so very much that they must destroy us or take us > over like we would do, then this is all in preparation for an invasion and we > are doomed. I'd rather focus on the enemy that we KNOW and that is the > illegal shadow government that has done and continues to do such things > against free peoples right here and right now. Maybe if we effectively > display the illegal, immoral activities of the corrupt secret government then > we can do away with THEIR experiments and eliminate THEIR UFO's from the > equation and THEN we can rightly point to a light in the sky and postulate > that that is an alien craft SINCE there are no illicit governmental craft > still going about their horrendous missions. > Let's tackle the enemy we see and know is there then we can do a better job > of explaining what is behind all of the OTHER phenomenon that is lumped into > UFOlogy. > Teo1000 You like many others use the vast distances needed to be traversed to get here as a reason or logic for dismissing the fact that we are being visited and the like. First of all that is antiquated thinking and let me explain why. First on the issue of humans whether in our government our outside of the government having technology like the aliens, which they do--and not being able to stop them. What makes you think that those humans who have technology on some approaching theirs that the aliens don't have stuff far superior to the relativily simple anti-gravity technology? Just because the technology is in the hands of humans does not mean that the same technology is FAR more advanced in non-human possession, or the reality of the OTHER technologies aliens possess which would prohibit humans in possession of technology even approximating that of the aliens from preventing the aliens from doing whatever they do. All indications point to the technology being in human hands through alien intervention anyway, so why would a more advanced race give humans ALL the technology or even THE BEST of that technology? They would not as that would cause a threat to them, and any intelligent race would not do that. As for the argument that these beings travel vast distances, what makes you think that is in fact the case? Have you visited these places where these beings reside and therefore you CAN VERIFY that in fact the distances ARE VAST? I can infer from your limited scope of thought, understanding and creativity that this is in fact not the case. So that leaves the sad realization that your beliefs are the result of being intellectually spoon-fed these so-called facts by "the experts who know these things." On several levels this again is faulty logic, and in fact not logical at all. Let me tell you why--first there are indications that some of these beings are granted residence ON, IN AND NEAR EARTH, so on that level there are no VAST DISTANCES to be travelled. On another level, those in possession of technology and scientific advancement that makes us and ours look like a toddler with a booger in its mouth, advanced metals, energy sources, and manipulation of gravity, time, and spa! ce make this argument silly. We could argue back and forth on this for many lifetimes and not see eye to eye, but in time you will realize the error of your ways, but unfortunately I can not intellectually lead you by the hand to these realizations, you will have to see for yourself. And when you and those like you who hold the same beliefs finally do that, than we will all benefit because we can then admit the reality and then DO SOMETHING to stop or change it. And I pray that you and those like you do and do so sooner rather than later because then we as a race will be better off when that happens. > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > ========== > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. 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