-Caveat Lector- > http://emperors-clothes.com/news/borislav.htm > > PART 2 - CONVERSATION WITH AMBASSADOR BORISLAV MILOSEVIC, SLOBODAN'S > BROTHER > > > * JARED ISRAEL (CONTINUED) > > And this current tendency to reduce human existence to one equivalent > evil, where 'humanitarian' means 'bombing' and resistance to > terrorism is by definition virtually the same as terror, where it is > considered natural for ethnic groups to try to kill each other and we > are supposed to root for whichever side the Imperial media has > portrayed as victims so that whatever they do is justified as > "revenge" against whatever group has currently been labeled "just > like Hitler" - that, it seems to me, is what your brother has been > fighting. That is why I'm supporting him. Sorry for my long speech! > > > * BORISLAV MILOSEVIC [In English] > > Yes yes! No, no it's very good speech! > > [In Serbo-Croatian] The whole concept that your government is trying > to impose on the world is very similar to what they preached when > there was a bipolar world, creating a positive force and its > opponent, a negative force, which today is called international > terrorism; and in that struggle everything is allowed. And nobody may > be neutral in that fight. > > So in the conditions of world supremacy of one power, the tendency > for having new armaments of mass destruction, new lethal arms is > increasing and it leads to development and strengthening of > terrorism. International terrorism cannot be suppressed by the use of > force alone, especially, as you correctly pointed out, when the > supreme power is itself organizing terrorism in various ways in > Kosovo, in Afghanistan, in Chechnya. So international security can be > created only on the basis of universality, and not on the basis of > isolation and destruction of several countries that allegedly > represent some axis of evil. > > And you have correctly pointed out that many organizations defined as > terrorist for instance and especially in the Middle East, were > created and are still controlled by the American secret services. > > And the American policy has created great harm in other ways. There > is the destruction of the environment and the economy in Yugoslavia > because of the attack. And there is the increasing danger of both > nuclear accident and nuclear war. > > > * JARED ISRAEL > > I think you made a very important point, that the Empire wishes to > create the perception of a bipolar world, in which they are one pole > and the other is terrorism. > > This Empire's thinkers are aware that every action has an equal and > opposite reaction. Because it's a law of politics, isn't it? So > opposition inevitably develops. And because they are clever, instead > of only attacking the opposition, the Empire tries to mold the > opposition. How can they lose if they are fighting something they > control? Their own nightmare image, in effect. > > By declaring this war on terrorism, they are fighting forces which > they covertly control. Then they also defend these terrorists, whom > they actually organized, by means of the 'human rights' apparatus > which they also control - and this ends up luring some people into > sympathy and support for the terrorists. > > Such people may not be thinking clearly or maybe they've just fallen > into the natural reaction that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" - > it's a human trait to think that way. So we see people on what > considers itself the Left in the West making heroes out of the > Taliban and other terrorists. But these terrorists are not > fundamentally opponents of this Empire. The Taliban, for example, are > victims of a guiding principle of this Empire, which is, "We have no > friends, we only have future victims." This Empire may attack those > whom it supported yesterday, as the need arises. The Taliban were > supported by them (11) and then abruptly they became a target because > the US needed an excuse, or more properly, the Empire needed an > excuse, because it is not the same as the US, this Empire is above > the US government, the Empire needed an excuse to move into Central > Asia. This was for geopolitical reasons. They wanted to give Central > Asian nations the DOS (12) treatment, which is penetra! > tion by Fifth Column organizations, and we see this now going on in > Central Asia accompanied by military penetration and the corruption > of the remnants of the Soviet officer corps disguised as military aid > and training. The goal is to build a force in these countries capable > of striking Russia. The Empire knows that Russia, in alliance with > China, is the primary real threat to their control. > > None of this is contradicted by Mr. Putin's complete capitulation. As > we saw with Macedonia, capitulation does not protect a country from > attack by this Empire. Indeed, the experience of the Taliban shows > that even being created by this Empire won't help if they decide to > recycle you! (13) > > So this move to complete the encirclement of Russia is justified by > the "war against Terrorism." And so some people in the peace > movement, perhaps not giving enough thought to what's going on, but > simply reacting to the appearance, which is that the Empire is > attacking Islamic fundamentalist terrorists - some people conclude > that the fundamentalists are an ally in resisting NATO. Meanwhile, in > fact, huge numbers of Taliban are being incorporated into the new > Afghan army (14) which is still a Fundamentalist army, just more > directly under Imperial control and with an end to local squabbling, > or so they hope. > > When Russia was the opposite pole, that was a problem. Russia had > positive ideas and practices regarding social equality. It was weak > on democracy and sometimes on international morality but strong on > social equality, and this encouraged dangerous egalitarianism. But > with Islamic terrorists as the opposite pole, when potential > opponents are drawn to the opposite pole, what are they idolizing? > The most backward and fascistic forces - the very people Saudi Arabia > and US used to destroy the secular state in Afghanistan. > > So these jihad terrorists, the most brutal killers, who condone > violence against women, whose definition of democracy is enforcing > the Quran, who advocate religious war - these fanatics become the > heroes for kids who want to change the world. What a nightmare. > > > * BORISLAV MILOSEVIC > > It is a difficult situation. > > Regarding this, let me say something about the war on terror. We in > Yugoslavia consider September 11th a tragic event. > > Perhaps your readers are not aware of the horrific destruction done > to my country [during the NATO attack on Yugoslavia]. This was a war > of terror. It was launched to support terrorists in Kosovo. And it > was conducted by planes dropping bombs, often encased in uranium, > from a great height, not by troops on the ground. Terrible > destruction, massive killings, environmental devastation. And all > carried out from a great height. Against a country which hadn't > invaded or threatened anyone. So this too was terror. (15) > > But we take no satisfaction regarding Sept. 11. On the contrary, we > sympathize with those who have suffered in the US. > > It is understandable that people in your country would have strong > reactions when those terrible events happened last September. But now > time has passed. A more thoughtful approach may be taken. A road of > peace may be pursued. I hope that people in your country will think > deeply about these questions. It is very important to the world. > > > * JARED ISRAEL > > Thank you, Mr. Ambassador. > > > * BORISLAV MILOSEVIC [In English] > > OK, Israel. It was very very big pleasure for me and I am very > pleased to contact to you like this and thank you very much. Very big > pleasure for me. > > > * JARED ISRAEL > > Well, thank your mother and father for having produced two men who > have contributed so much to the world. > > * BORISLAV MILOSEVIC [Laughs. Says in English]: > > Don't overestimate things. > > > * JARED ISRAEL > > But it's the truth. Where would we be without Serbia? You resisted. > What can I say? The Serbs seem to do it every time. > > *** > > Join our email list at http://emperors-clothes.com/f.htm > Receive articles posted on Emperor's Clothes. > > Click here to email the link to this article to a friend. > > Further Reading: > > 1) 'MEDIA MISREPRESENTATION OF MILOSEVIC'S WORDS: A REVIEW OF THE > EVIDENCE,' by Professor Francisco Gil-White can be read at > http://emperors-clothes.com/milo/gw.htm > > 2) 'Milosevic Speech at Kosovo Field (1989),' can be read at > http://emperors-clothes.com/milo/milosaid.html > > 3) 'BY ADDING THREE LIES, ONE DOES NOT GET THE TRUTH - ONLY A BIGGER > LIE,' is a statement Slobodan Milosevic made during a pre-'trial' > hearing at The Hague. It contradicts what one might expect Milosevic > to say, based on his portrait as drawn in the Western media. Can be > read at > http://www.icdsm.org/milosevic/30jan.htm#1 > > 4) In the classic text, 'Seeing Yugoslavia Through a Dark Glass: > Politics, Media and the Ideology of Globalization,' Diana Johnstone > quotes a semi-internal publication of the very anti-Milosevic > International Crisis Group which states that Albanian secessionists > in fact boycotted Albanian-language institutions in Serbia (as > opposed to having been deprived of such cultural institutions by > supposed racists, as they and the Western media claimed.) In other > words, they and the Western 'experts' lied. The relevant quote is at > http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/Johnstone/1yugo.htm#kspring > Ms. Johnstone's article is generally instructive in seeing through > the dark glass of misinformation about Yugoslavia. > > 4a) Speaking of 'provocative images,' in 'Art in the New World > Order,' written in spring of 2000, a news photographer discusses the > amazing fact that from 1998 to 2000 virtually all the top > photojournalism awards were given for pictures of crying Kosovo > Albanian women. What will future generations make of this? Can be > read (and sample prize winning photos can be seen) at > http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/artinthe.htm > > 5) "Afghan Operation Leaves Russia 'Encircled' by US and NATO," > by Sergey Ptichkin and Aleksey Chichkin can be read at > http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/encircle.htm > > 6) 'Gaping Holes in the 'CIA vs. bin Laden Story,' by * JARED ISRAEL > can be read at http://emperors-clothes.com/news/probestop-i.htm > > 6a) 'Bush & the Media Cover up the Jihad Schoolbook Scandal,' > By * JARED ISRAEL at > http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/jihad.htm > > 7) 'Did any major power NOT fund the Kostunica campaign?' can be read > at > http://emperors-clothes.com/news/everybody's.htm > > 8) 'The Black Hole,' by Petar Makara documents that 'Yugoslavia' was > removed from the Britanica when the existence of said country became > politically incorrect. Can be read at > http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/multiple/blackhole.html > > 9) Alijah Izetbegovic was portrayed in the Western media as a > moderate in favor of a multiethnic Bosnia. Nothing could be further > from the truth. For a revealing quote from his book, "Islamic > Declaration," and a bit on his role during World War II, see "JOE > LIEBERMAN - APOLOGIST FOR THE FASCIST KLA" at > http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/garris/duringthe.htm#1 > > 10) 'The Other Side of the Story,' by Dusan Vilic and Bosko > Todorovic. > Written by two retired Yugoslav generals with access to never-before > released army orders, this truly amazing book documents the ways the > Yugoslav Army strove to fight NATO-backed terrorists in a > civilian-friendly way, thus demonstrating that contrary to Chomsky, > counter-terrorism need not equal terror. The issue of civilian > relations is discussed throughout including in chapter seven which > can be accessed at > http://emperors-clothes.com/book/book7.htm > > The book can be accessed in full, or, for quicker loading, > chapter-by-chapter, starting with chapter one. For whole book go to > http://www.icdsm.org/more/book.htm > or for chapter one (with link to chapter two, and so on) go to > http://emperors-clothes.com/book/book1.htm > > 11) 'Congressman: U.S. Set Up Anti-Taliban to be Slaughtered,' > includes text of Congressional hearing and comments by * JARED > ISRAEL. Go to http://emperors-clothes.com/misc/rohr.htm > > 12) DOS stands for Democratic Opposition of Serbia, a charming use of > language, since these 'democrats' overthrew the elected Yugoslav > government and burned the Parliament and these 'Serbs' were given > what were in Serbian terms astronomical amounts of money by the US > and other states in the new Empire in exchange for 'their' nation. > For more information, see these two texts, which also have useful > references found in 'sections marked Footnotes' or 'Further Reading': > > * a) "Kostunica Says Some Backers 'Unconsciously work for American > Imperial Goals...'" at > http://emperors-clothes.com/news/erlang.htm > [Includes the infamous remark that the US shipped 'suitcases of cash' > to DOS] > > * b) 'US Arrogance and Yugoslav Elections' at > http://emperors-clothes.com/engl.htm > > 13) On NATO's use of UN-paid terrorists to attack Macedonia see: > "SORRY, VIRGINIA, BUT THEY ARE NATO TROOPS, NOT 'REBELS'" at > http://emperors-clothes.com/mac/times.htm > [Note - If you are not familiar with what has been done to Macedonia, > the phrase "UN-paid terrorists" may sound like the worst hyperbole. > But read the article and you will see that it is understatement.] > > 14) For documentation of claim that much of Taliban has been > incorporated into the new Afghan Army, go to > http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/oil-1.htm#1 > > 15) In 'Death on a Very Small Planet' we have posted strikingly > similar pictures of the destruction caused by September 11th and by > NATO's bombing of Yugoslavia. 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