-Caveat Lector- Reno to Speak in Waco - http://www.apfn.org/apfn/genocide.htm http://disc.server.com/Indices/149495.html Tue May 1 11:14:38 2001 Patriots, I was able to find a URL with which you can contact Baylor and let them know how you feel about having Reno speak. It's: http://www.baylor.edu/president/submit.html Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baylor University - Waco, Texas 76798 - 1-800-BAYLOR-U God bless, Barb - "Barb Alford" - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Former Attorney General Janet Reno To Speak At Baylor Sept. 13 http://pr.baylor.edu/feat.fcgi?2001.04.26.reno ======================================================================== "THERE IS NO STATUTE OF LIMITATION on the CRIME OF GENOCIDE". ======================================================================== http://pr.baylor.edu/ Reno to Speak in Waco NewsMax.com Wires Saturday, April 28, 2001 WACO, Texas (UPI) - Former Attorney General Janet Reno will speak this fall at Baylor University, only a few miles from the scene of the deadly Branch Davidian siege that confronted her in the first weeks of her administration eight years ago. Reno will speak on ethics in public service, as well as share some reflections on the 1993 standoff, during her visit Sept. 13, as part of the President's Forum lecture series. University spokesman Larry Brumley said Reno's representatives initiated the visit, the Waco Tribune-Herald reported Friday. "Although it won't be the focus of her presentation, she is going to make some comments about what she learned from the Branch Davidian episode and will more than likely have some pretty candid observations," he said. "Given the indelible mark that event left on Waco, there was a feeling that as a university that is rooted in this community, there would be some value in hearing her and having her address face-to-face people in this community who've been left with the aftereffects of that tragedy." Baylor President Robert B. Sloan Jr. talked to local public officials, as well as the Greater Waco Chamber of Commerce, before inviting Reno, the spokesman said. Davidian survivors and their relatives were not contacted in advance about the planned visit, he said. Clive Doyle, a Davidian survivor who lost his daughter in the fire, told the Tribune-Herald that he might attend Reno's speech. He said he did not blame her for what happened. "She came into the job after a lot of this had started, for one thing," he said. "I think there were other people that knew a whole lot more that kept her in the dark to a certain extent." The siege began Feb. 28, 1993 when Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agents attempted to arrest Davidian leader David Koresh at the compound 10 miles east of Waco. The 51-day siege ended April 19 when FBI agents fired tear gas into the building and a fire broke out. Koresh and more than 80 of his followers died in the blaze. Reno approved the use of tear gas on the Davidians in an attempt to force them to surrender peacefully. She later said she would not have approved the plan if she had known it would lead to deaths. A federal judge and special counsel have blamed Koresh for the deadly fire. Copyright 2001 by United Press International. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Janet Reno on CNN 04/19/93 <====== http://www.apfn.org/wacoinfo/WACO_RENO_04_19_93.WMV Jack Thompson, Esq. Exposes Reno at IBT (Part #1-#4) 1 hr. 56 min. <====== http://www.apfn.org/wacoinfo/IBT_Thompson_Reno.WMV Wed Apr 11 18:54:00 2001 APPOINTMENT WITH THE APOCALYPSE by Steven Hager and Preston Peet http://www.hightimes.com/Magazine/2001/2001_05/article1.tpl [SNIP] The day before launching "Operation Trojan Horse," the ATF reserved rooms in local hotels for over a hundred agents and personnel. They also alerted the national and local media to be ready for a big story that was about to break. A highly inflammatory article attacking Koresh as a child abuser appeared in the Waco Tribune-Herald the morning of the raid. It wasn't difficult to see a massive operation was underway, aimed at Mount Carmel. [SHOWTIME] [SNIP] http://www.hightimes.com/Magazine/2001/2001_05/article1.tpl Cato Blasts Danforth Waco Report Tuesday, 10 April 2001 17:05 (ET) http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=175900 Questions for Congress (Reno) About "Waco" [snip] 31. Did the FBI misinform Attorney General Reno about the progress of negotiations? On April 15th FBI chief negotiator Byron Sage told Web- ster Hubbell and others that "further negotiations with the subjects in the compound would be fruitless." It is unknown if Sage read Koresh's April 14th letter to Hubbell. There is evidence that the FBI never gave Reno a copy of this letter in her briefing report, though it admits showing her his defiant April 9th letter. Neither Reno nor former FBI Director William Sessions seemed to be aware of its existence even under direct questioning by the press and Congress. HRT commander Richard Rogers met with Reno and argued negotiations were deadlocked. Rogers, who had pushed SAC Jamar to use the tactical harassment that had so disrupted negotiations, now informed Attorney General Janet Reno that negotiations were not working! Was Rogers' impatience to end the standoff in part related to his fear the upcoming Randy Weaver trial would bring out facts about Rogers' criminal misconduct in that case--something the Waco spotlight would only exaggerate? 32. Why did the FBI lie to Attorney General Reno regarding the safety of CS gas? Did the FBI lie when it said it did not know that the United States is one of 100 countries that signed an agreement banning the use of CS gas in war during the Chemical Weapons Convention in Paris in January of 1993? Did the FBI not know about the June 1, 1988 report Amnesty International claimed that CS gas had contrib- uted to or caused the deaths of more than 40 Palesti- nians--including 18 babies under 6 months of age--who had been exposed to tear-gas in enclosed spaces. American manufacturers of CS gas halted the export of the gas to Israel because of its misuse. Why did the FBI not tell Reno that a mixture of CS gas and air could be ignited within a certain temperature range and that manufacturers clearly warn that when burned CS gas emits deadly toxic fumes, including hydrogen cyanide and hydrogen chloride--the ingredients of Zyklon B gas used by the Nazis. Manufacturers also warn that when water is poured on a CS gas fire it can create and release a lethal cloud of hydrogen cyanide gas. The FBI probably did not reveal to Reno the dangers of both means of delivering the gas, gassing and ferret rounds. The Mark V injection system sprayed a mixture of gas and solvent propelled by carbon dioxide from the end of long booms on the tanks. What the FBI probably did not mention to Reno--it was not mentioned in the Justice Department report or the Fire Report--was that a solvent was used to dissolve the gas before it was mixed with carbon dioxide. The FBI asserts it used methylene chloride, which is flammable under certain conditions. Others suspect rogue agents could have replaced that chemical with even more flammable ones like acetone or benzene. Did the FBI tell Janet Reno that the "40mm ferret liquid tear gas rounds" would be delivered by M79 grenade launchers? When fired from 20 yards or less, these are capable of penetrating a hollow core door--or killing a human being. Did they tell her they would use more than 400 of these 40mm rounds? 33. Did the FBI lull Attorney General Reno into a "false sense of security" regarding FBI "rules of engagement." The standard FBI rules of engagement are: "Agents are not to use deadly force against any person except as necessary in self-defense or the defense of another, when they have reason to believe they or another are in danger of death or grievous bodily harm. Whenever feasible, verbal warnings should be given before deadly force is applied." Janet Reno approved the same rules for April 19th. Reno told the House Judiciary Committee she thought the possibility of the Davidians firing on the tanks was the most important "contingency" and that if the Davi- dians fired at tanks or agents, the FBI would be per- mitted "to return fire." (She may not have adequately informed President Clinton of this since at his April 20th press conference he twice asserted that the FBI was instructed to withhold fire even if the Davidians fired.) Reno told the House Judiciary Committee that once the operation began, she would leave decisions up to the FBI because she was not "an expert in tactical law enforcement." However, she retained the authority to stop the action and tell the FBI to leave. The question is, what other contingencies might the FBI have known about that they did not tell Reno either before or after she approved the gassing plan on April 17th? At least one of those is mentioned below. [snip] THE DAVIDIAN MASSACRE Disturbing Questions about Waco which Must Be Answered © 1995 Carol Moore http://www.carolmoore.net/TDM-index.html Reno/FBI may have systematically tortured the Davidians http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495&article=1161 Bring The Waco Murders To Justice! CLASS ACTION SUIT - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.apfn.org/apfn/CAS.htm ======================================================================== THERE IS NO STATUTE OF LIMITATION on the CRIME OF GENOCIDE" (New) http://www.apfn.org/apfn/genocide.htm ======================================================================= Title 18, Section 4, Misprision of felony - Section 1091 - "Genocide" - Notwithstanding section 3282 of this title, in the case of an offense under subsection (a)(1), indictment may be found. "THERE IS NO STATUTE OF LIMITATION on the CRIME OF GENOCIDE". http://www.apfn.org/apfn/genocide.htm Pursuant to Title 18 USC, Fed. Rules of Crim. Procedure, Section 1504 or in the alternative, for prosection for War Crimes before an INTERNATIONAL TRIBUNAL, or THE INTERNATIONAL COURT, the HAGUE http://www.apfn.org/apfn/genocide.htm An ongoing concern with the "possible" coverup of the act of Genocide, as defined/described at Title 18 USC, Fed. Rules of Crim. Procedure, Section 1091, committed at Waco, Texas, perpetrated against the Branch Davidians Religious Group. "THERE IS NO STATUTE OF LIMITATION on the CRIME OF GENOCIDE". (FULL LEGAL POSTING IN NEAR FUTURE) - I am not suicidal! http://www.apfn.org/apfn/genocide.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Why Waco? / Who Waco! - Judge William Sessions, Dir. of FBI, From Waco, Tx. Ann Richard, Baylor, Govt. of Texas, From: Waco, Tx Bob Rick, FBI Spoksman: You guessed it. Gard. Baylor Univ. 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