-Caveat Lector- Re: [CTRL] Cycles of Civilization - As below is above? In a message dated 10/26/1999 11:37:34 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << The formula, as I learned it, is "As above, so below; as below, so above; for the accomplishment of the One Thing." Microcosm and Macrocosm reflect *each other*-->> This is understood. The mathematical relationship between microcosm and macrocosm is undeniable. The subject being discussed was that, it is UNlikely that stone age man simply learned the pattern of the stars, and used it as an archetype to pass along information of a patriarchal nature. We also take notice of the statement regarding that this "is the very basis of ceremonial magic, whereby the magician's actions both mirror and influence the actions of the gods/demons/entities one is seeking to control." This seems to relate directly to the biblical mandate which prohibits the use of the micro/macro relationship FOR the very purposes of occultic control, manipulation, or self-glorification of man by man. With that said... The magnetic effect of the Sun, Moon, and stars can be recorded by means of technology, and further, this recordable effect is chartable through astrology, which can definately give us insight to daily lives if we are to ignore biblical prohibition of such action. Again, if "as below, is above" were consistently true, the daily events of a human's life would dictate to the stars some type of magnetic (or yet unknown form of) governance, charting a daily course for the stars "above". In this fashion, the "above" is definately NOT a reflection of the "below". Yet, that which is "below" can still be found as being remarkably challenged by the parameters (electromagnetics, etc.) which continue "above". This is not to say, that we can completely rule out the possibility of "as BELOW, is above"...as if to say that this phenomena cannot be found at all... We previously mentioned that the Bible bars out the option of seeking to prophecy from the stars in an astrological sense (to glorify man), but, it is also clear that the stars serve a purpose in God's plan for mankind (GEN 1:14; PS 19:1-5). In the biblical paradigm, all who believe in Jesus are called "Abraham's seed" (GAL 3). This multitudiness seed, was promised by Abraham's God, to be multiplied "as the stars of heaven"...(GEN 17; GEN 22; etc.). In this same fashion, the Bible continues to make use of this symbology, equating the glory of resurrected believers in Christ with the variance in light reflected from the stars themselves (I COR 15). The Bible also informs us that a portion (1/3) of the heavenly host (stars) are used to represent one third of the already fallen angelic host of heaven (REV 12). Finally, the Bible also tells us (ISA 65; II PET 3; REV 21), that at some future point in time, there will be a "new heavens, and new earth." As our temporal "earthly/below" actions and decisions are biblically shown to ultimately effect our eternal "heavenly/above" status...and, as this status is also biblically shown to be reflected in the heavens.... ....the entire spectrum of biblical salvation comes to it's grand finale at the end of the Grand Precession. Not only does a third portion of the existing "heavens" represent the fallen Luciferians, but it also includes "stars" to represent those who currently might be, (or those who have already been), foolish enough to follow along in the rebellion of making themselves as gods. These "wandering stars" (JUDE 13) come to earth, and end up following the course charted by the Luciferians.. In the biblical paradigm, the mazzaroth reflects the current and ever changing, still UNfinished condition of the physical embodiement of spiritual souls, as we enter into this dimension of time/space on Earth. Since astrology is but the recognition of this ongoing process-- through use of comprehending the "stellar" (and electromagnetic) effect that these heavenly bodies have upon us in the flesh, it becomes more obvious why the Bible speaks of a "new heavens and new earth", as, when these events reach their final resolve, the current mazzaroth will have need of being renewed-- so that the "former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind" (ISA 65). We also recognize that, to leave these heavenlies in existence would only continue to have the same negative effect that the broken Earth Star patterns on Earth's grid currently show. Our daily lives do not bring a DAILY effect on the chartable course of heavenly bodies, but, in the biblicaly paradigm, "as below, is above," is seen to be true in the realm of eternity. Tsadowq So, from the biblical paradigm, DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. 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