-Caveat Lector- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K ----- Click Here: <A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:582471">CIA's Dulles And Christmas Cheer</A> ----- Subject: CIA's Dulles And Christmas Cheer From: Ralph McGehee <A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> Date: Wed, 22 December 1999 10:32 AM EST Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A537A1F01703A86BE3EA8B07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------A537A1F01703A86BE3EA8B07 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="dulles" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dulles" Allen Dulles and More Christmas Cheer An email responding to my post of "Be Of Good Cheer," herewith and edited makes a valid point that lower level analysts frequently get it right -- but policymakers distort their product to support the operational role of the CIA, vis: > Reminds me of Allen Dulles' literary claims of espionage success. The > files showed what a disaster he was, with most of his OSS reports > discarded as worthless. Still, there is more than a grain of truth in the > lower-ranking analysts claims to have gotten it right. The real question > is what was the CIA's policy when it hit the President's desk? Two very > different stories. There is no great disinformation conspiracy, > just bureaucrats rewriting analysts reports to fit the political theory of > their bosses.... (Identifying data deleted by R.McGehee) Subject: Re: Be of Good Cheer I cannot comment on Dulles' OSS claims as I have avoided OSS history out of inability to handle the sheer mass of info available. Your views re lower level analysts getting it right probably have much truth. As I discovered in my "Vietnam days" policy dictated intelligence with William Colby and others ensuring that no info challenging our policy saw the light of day. However, the rejection of reality started from the very first days from just after WWII and prior to the creation of CIA. Later even Sam Adams, the number one analyst/protestor on Vietnam, had little knowledge about the Communists "People's War," written about ad naseum by Vo Nguyen Giap, Ho Chi Minh and even Mao Tse tung. Agency analysts do not use open source data/datum -- and herewith lies one major cause of its egregiously terrible intelligence. Another is the multi-leveled bureaucratic structure of the CIA that authorizes politicized bureaucrats at all levels to hack away at raw intelligence until it supports policy. In my last few years in the CIA as a skeptic I saw that distoring intelligence to support policy was a universal truism. This can be deducted particularly from Mel Goodwin's experience re CIA intelligence on the Soviet Union. William Casey was a total practicioner of this phenomenon. Unfortunately efforts to protect the CIA's past dominate today. My concern is how an intelligence agency can ever be effective against terrorism, WMD, drugs, etc., when it cannot get it right over such long term and huge requirements as the USSR and Vietnam; and, when policy writes intelligence. For a successful career in the CIA one must accept that the Emperor wears gorgeous robes -- stating the obvious kills the messenger. To become an intelligence Agency the CIA must be re-structured -- but Tenet apparently does not see this -- or does not know this -- or does not care -- or more likely, wants the CIA to enforce policy not write accurate intelligence. Ralph McGehee <A HREF="http://come.to/CIABASE">http://come.to/CIABASE</A> --------------A537A1F01703A86BE3EA8B07-- Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, All My Relations. Omnia Bona Bonis, Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
