-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.geocities.com/~bobkatmusic/toshconfess.htm EXCERPTS FROM THE CONFESSION OF CIA PILOT ROBERT "TOSH" PLUMLEE Former CIA pilot Robert "Tosh" Plumlee speaks out for the first time about his participation in the JFK assassination. Mr. Plumlee's testimony to the United States Senate Intelligence Committee has been classified as "Top Secret." WARNING This confidential report and the information herein are the sole and exclusive copyrighted property of Investigative Concepts Unlimited ("ICU"), 2609 Coffee Tree Court, Antioch, CA 94509, Phone: (925) 754-8833. This report, in full or in part, may not be reproduced, copied, broadcast, distributed, or disseminated in any manner without the expressed written consent of ICU. Anyone who violates this copyright notice may be subject to civil and criminal penalties and jail. All copyright infringements shall be reported to the FBI. Q: Tosh, how do you make your living, what kind of occupation are you in? A: I'm a pilot, commercial pilot. Q: When did you first become a pilot? A: I started in 1956. I was an aircraft mechanic prior to going in and getting my license. Q: And, you've been flying for a living ever since? A: Off and on and also doing other jobs in those lean, lean years so to speak. Q: In your times as a pilot, have you ever been associated with or worked with the CIA? A: Yes I have. Q: What was the first time? A: The first time was 1956 and the first time I became involved, connected with the CIA, through out of military intelligence, was the M-267 and that was a gun running supply operation to supply guns and ammunition to the students at the University of Havana inside Cuba. This was pro-Castro days. This was before Castro came into power. And, that was the beginning. Q: Have you worked with the CIA since that time? A: Yes, I've worked with the CIA. Q: On just another occasion or many occasions? A: On many occasions. Q: Over a period of how many years? A: Off and on, over a period of 30 years. Q: Have you ever met, in your lifetime, a person named John Roselli? A: Yes, I knew John Roselli rather well. Q: When did you first meet him? A: I met Roselli in about 1960, last part of '60, first part of '61. And, this was at Biscayne Park, we'd just came from a meeting place called Sloppy Joe's on Flagler Street in Miami. And, Johnny, John Farentello was there, the person that introduced me to John Roselli. Q: Have you ever had an occasion to fly in an airplane or to fly John Roselli? A: I've flown John Roselli, I would say, perhaps more than 6 or 7 different occasions. These were to islands, well not islands, but to the Marathon Key in Florida, Bimini, once to Havana, one other time from Houston to Galvezton to see about getting a raider ship which was going to O'Rourke's operation, and another time from Salt Lake City to Thunderbird Inn in Las Vegas, and then from Las Vegas to Santa Barbara, California. And, that particular transition of flights was 1963. Q: On those occasions, did you get to know John Roselli personally? A: Yes, I knew John Roselli personally. Q: Where were you on November 22, 1963? A: I was observing the attempt on Kennedy's life. I was at Dealey Plaza on the South Knoll. Q: Did you have occasion on that day to see John Roselli? A: Yes, I did. I saw John Roselli. John Roselli was on board the flight coming out of Houston. We had taken a flight out of Tampa, Florida and went through New Orleans, New Orleans to Houston and Roselli had boarded the flight at Tampa, Florida, and he was staying at the Congress Inn the night before he boarded the flight. Our team flew out of West Palm Beach, a place called Lantana, and to Tampa and then Roselli and a couple of other people got on board in Tampa. We flew to New Orleans where two people got off, three other people got on, Roselli stayed on board. We flew to Houston and then the next morning, we had some weather, and we left for Dallas, and we had to...we were heading for Thunderbird, I mean for Redbird Airport, and we had to make a stop a Dallas/Garland because of weather. We did not have an IFR flight plan filed at that point. We did not want to file a flight plan. The impression I was under at that time is we were flying a team into Dallas to abort the assassination and John Roselli was on board that flight as well as a couple of other Cubans and people that were connected with organized crime in New Orleans. Q: On the morning of November 22, 1963, did the flight that arrived in Garland, Texas, just outside of Dallas, have anything to do with the CIA? A: The CIA was....yes it did, the CIA was our support people. We were military intelligence. The CIA was running support and coordinating certain flights, making different arrangements, or necessary arrangements, for us. Q: Who got off of the airplane at Redbird? A: Everybody else got off at Redbird. John Roselli got off at Redbird and everybody went their own way. Where they went, I have no idea, at that point and time I have no idea where they went. Q: Where you there just as a pilot or were you there as a participant in this operation? A: I've said I was there as a pilot. I was there as a participant. I was a spotter. We were finding to find out if this was a legit operation, if it was going to be a "hit" and then we would take'em out. Q: Where were you standing in Dealey Plaza when the shots were fired? A: I was over on the South side, directly in line with the light posts. Sergio and I were attempting to evaluate where the most logical place to be to make the "hit". We had just got there to the Plaza and everything was all messed up, timing was off, people were not in....where they were supposed to be, the limited radio contacts that we had were not working. Whether the team that I flew in was a combination of the abort team or the shooter team, I have no way of knowing. It could have been a combination of both or it could have been a complete 100% abort team, I don't know. Q: What kind of plane were you flying that day? A: We were flying a DC-3. Q: Tosh, did you know Lee Harvey Oswald? A: Yes, I knew Lee Harvey Oswald. Q: Where did you first meet him? A: I first meet Lee Harvey Oswald at a secret base called Illusionary Warfare Training at Nagshead, North Carolina in 1959 prior to him going to language school and going to Russia. Q: Did you just meet him or did you get to know him? A: I got to...well, I just met him and remembered him....At the time that I met him in '59 he was a Marine, we were all in Illusionary Warfare Training, or something...propaganda stuff, and he was there and he was doing language study at that particular point. I didn't recognize him as anybody them other than just another black operative. Q: Did you ever see him after that? A: Yes, one time in Honolulu with another guy at a radar installation and that was about....oh I guess shortly after that...shortly after Nagshead... my dates may be wrong. It could have been '58 or '59 right around that area. Q: Were there other occasions when you saw him? A: Well, the one at the radar complex there on either Ohau or...I can't remember exactly where it was. But he was there at that time and I saw him briefly at Wheeler Air Force Base there at there at Oahu outside Honolulu and he was getting ready to leave an go to Dal...the whole group was getting ready to leave and we had been just completing jungle warfare training. Q: Did you ever see him again after that? A: Yes, in '62 when I came back into Dallas area, that, through the Dallas Cubans over on, not Harlendale Street, but there was a "safe" house here in Dallas, Oak Cliff, two of'em. There was a small two bedroom frame type house that was located in Oak Cliff not far from the zoo where the old inner urban track used to go through, I mean there's a highline down through there now, at that place and then I think it was Zang's Blvd. there used to be "safe" house there that was run by Hernandez out of Miami that had connections with Alpha 66 at one point that se up a "safe" house for Dallas Cubans that were filtrating out of the Miami area. Oswald, from those two "safe" houses, I went to another "safe" house and that "safe" house was directly behind where Oswald had rented a room, in the alley, and I carved my initials on the draining board up there at that time and that was a gun running operation and Oswald was renting the front house. I saw him there briefly but did not talk to him. 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