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>From the PAO Newsletter November 2001 at: www.paoweb.com

AN AFTERNOON WITH STEVEN GREER

September 9, 2001
"The Disclosure Project" arrived in Vancouver, Canada on Sunday, September
9, 2001. It was an historic visit. Vancouver was their first stop beyond the
continental United States, their first stop in Canada, and the beginning of
their movement out into the world. Dr. Greer intends them to visit Vancouver
annually.

"The Disclosure Project" was held at Simon Fraser University, immediately
east of the City of Vancouver. Its beautiful, modern campus perches on the
top of a low mountain, overlooking the City yet close to the stars, and
seemed to us a perfect venue for this special presentation about UFOs and
space. 450 people attended the 5-hour session that day, and what struck us
most was the range of their ages, from teens to great-grandparents.

>From the moment the host introduced himself, promptly at 1:30, the crowded
room was totally silent, and we all sat, spellbound by the information that
swirled about us. First, a 2-hour video was shown that included astonishing
accounts from courageous retired military, government and aerospace
personnel. All of these witnesses possessed documented evidence of sightings
and government cover-ups that, had it been revealed, could have ruined their
reputations and destroyed their careers.

After a brief, 20-minute break, Steven Greer took the stage and began his
presentation. "I am just a country doctor from Virginia who could not walk
away from the truth," he began. With those words, he captured our minds and
our hearts, as did Alfred Webre and Carol Rosin, who followed him in turn.

"The Disclosure Project" was the shortest long afternoon we ever spent. It
was full of anger and frustration at the stubborn and shortsighted
governments who conspire to conceal the existence of UFOs and plan to arm
space with high-tech weaponry. But it was also full of humor and hope, for
what Steven Greer and his associates have already accomplished, and for what
we, their audiences, can do to further their mission.

Those of us from the Vancouver PAG group who attended "The Disclosure
Project" were fascinated by how closely its information dovetailed with
Sheldan's. They are like two sides of the same coin.

Below are a few items from our notes. They are in random order and point
form. (The notes were taken in a darkened theatre so you may find some of
the information fragmented.)

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Notes taken from the Videotape:


Astronaut Gordon Cooper was shown proof before the lunar landing that there
are artificial structures on the moon, built before the US arrived. There is
a base on the back side of the moon containing massive structures, 1/2 mile
in size, some with reflective surfaces.
ET Retrieval

There have been at least two dozen. 3 or 5 bodies were retrieved from
Roswell; 1 was partially alive when found. Eisenhower's fear for the
decentralization of UFO research: "It's not going to be in the best hands".

Ship Sighting: Big; teardrop-shaped; purplish-green; colour shifted; deep
bass hum; 'fish-gill' fence - for propulsion

UFO at sighting at Fort Dix. An ET was shot & wounded there. It headed for
McGuire Air Force Base, where it died.

Someone who saw ET's said, "They are living, breathing creatures, as mortal
as you and I."

Notes taken from Dr. Steven Greer's Talk:

Government Secrecy

Compartmentalization keeps UFO info secret from even those with adequate
clearance. It's beyond a "need to know". Fewer than 50 people in the
intelligence community are aware of UFO info. Their greatest weapon is this
compartmentalization within government that debunks the truth. It extends
even to the President - mentioned Carter, specifically. There are 38 levels
above 'Top Secret': highest level is 'Cosmic'.

1993: How do we disclose what we don't have access to? Even the US President
was denied access; even sitting CIA Directors who knew UFO's existed were
denied access by compartmentalization.

Werner von Braun knew that space weaponry was being planned decades ago, and
that an ET threat would be used to justify weapons in space. In his last
years, he fought against space weapons.

According to Von Braun's sequence of rationalization, the Americans would
use a progressive chain of enemies: Russians----terrorists----Third World
crazies----asteroids----extraterrestrials to justify their use of space
weaponry. Von Braun said that the rationales would accelerate until they
would suddenly be a 'fait accompli'.

A few people are playing a costly game of weapons for their own power. That
game is based in the U.S.

Greer: Intimidation of personnel continues to maintain secrecy. People are
threatened with discreditation; with court martial; and with transfer to the
Far North ("Alaska"). On the video, Daniel Salter mentioned 3 levels of
intimidation. One is ridicule. The ultimate threat: "You will be erased". He
says that, "these people are evil".
Why the secrecy?

Greer: From the '30's to the '50's, governments felt that society was
unprepared, psychologically, religiously and culturally. That argument is no
longer relevant. Secrecy evolved to protect the economic order and special
interests, such as gasoline-based and propulsion-based energies. We now have
technologies that will supersede these energies.

"If we're the only ones in the universe, God sure has bad judgment."

A member of the US Congress told Greer, "the fact that you are here [in his
office] means that time is short".

Ancient Chinese saying: "Unless we change directions, we will end up where
we are going".

Greer calls the move toward space weaponry "2001: A Space Idiocy".

The internal combustion engine will give us a "Mad Max" scenario by the end
of this decade. We have not needed the internal combustion engine since
1955.

"The Disclosure Project" is about choosing a good future for humanity.

In our lifetime, we have begun to commit "planet-icide".

We need a rapprochement between the 1st and the 3rd Worlds. The good news is
that if we disclose facts and disseminate technologies for peaceful purposes
and enter space, forswearing violence there, we can thus create an abundant
civilization for the next generations.

Greer approached high-level people. Eight years later, he is here. In spite
of it all, he has no regrets. He asks himself the question: 'Is this the
right thing to do?' When the answer is 'yes', he acts and is content.

"The Campaign for Disclosure has been launched and we will persist until our
goals are met."

The people of Earth deserve to know the truth. We must get the word out,
empower ourselves. There is a universal flow, but we must put ourselves in
its way. Without thought of personal gain, we must 'look beyond to 20
generations' (Cherokee saying) and now, even more, to 20 million
generations.

The most discouraging thing is that people in high places pass the buck. He
met with people, even the head of NASA's Commission to Planet Earth, who
wouldn't help because of their careers.

We must act so that they [our leaders] will follow. "Courage in Washington
DC is the rarest of all commodities".

Government secrecy is a serious problem. A rogue secret government has
perverted government agendas for the US and Canada.

If things don't change, we are headed toward an increased erosion of our
human rights.

Greer met with Lawrence Rockefeller. Also met with Mrs. Boutros-Gali at
U.N., who told him: "It's too dangerous for Boutros".

We must encourage our leaders to call for hearings and investigations. They
need the support of a mass call from the people so that they can act.

The human race will endure. We have created dysfunction on earth. Cosmic
co-dependency keeps us from recognizing our own powers to make these
changes.

ETs are not hostile; otherwise we would be long gone. Greer says that a
cosmic quarantine is going on until we lose our weapons of mass destruction.

Notes taken from Dr. Alfred Webre'sTalk:

Part of the Carter White House 'ET Research Studies Project' that was
cancelled.

Alfred lives in Vancouver.

Jimmy Carter was a UFO contactee in 1969 in Georgia. As a result of this
encounter, his consciousness was raised.

As a campaign promise, Carter promised to announce UFO existence. The Carter
White House started out pro-UFO - Ham Jordan, Jody Powell, etc - but, by
June 1977, their plans had all been shut down by secrecy. (Webre was told
that he would lose his contract if he didn't back off.)

2001 is a year of breakthroughs. "The Disclosure Project" is a breakthrough,
because people are coming forward to speak their truths. US Congressman
Dennis Kucinich will introduce a bill to ban space-based weapons on October
2. This is a breakthrough, too. On July 26, John Manley, Canada's Foreign
Minister, announced Canada's initiative to ban space-based weapons. Two
Canadian Government senior defense critics have contacted "The Disclosure
Project" to assist in banning space-based weapons and in alien disclosure.

Webre: "The Universe is highly populated, highly regulated and beneficent."

Russia, China and now Canada, are all beginning to safeguard outer space.
The war machine is an empty shell that we can transform. 500 well-placed
faxes can change the world.

Notes taken from Dr. Carol Rosin's Talk:

Website: www.peaceinspace.com

Ex-spokesperson for Werner Von Braun

Dedicated to keep space free of weapons and safe

She is in service to a vision of life on earth and in space

'Mission Possible' is her action plan

Rosin started as 6th Grade science teacher. As the result of her 'spaceship
earth' teaching unit, she met Werner Von Braun, who told her to report to
work with him at Fairchild 3 weeks later. He taught her who the players were
for weapons in space.

She phoned Saddam Hussein from her kitchen to ask why he was lighting oil
wells on fire.

"We are all living under a canopy of lies." We know the truth, and are
looking for people who are reachable.

Use websites as a base for communications.

Rosin focuses on space-based weapons.

"None of them are hostile", she says of ET's.


"The Disclosure Project" on May 9, 2001 was the largest press conference
ever held at the US Press Club. "TDP" is careful to highlight only credible
people and issues. "TDP" is activating a global movement to transform the
entire weapons industry and its mindset. Given weapons' potential for
devastation, that movement is imperative. (In the last ˝ hour, since Rosin
began her talk, 32,000 children have died.)

People outside the US must contact everyone they know to get this movement
going in their countries.

George W. Bush is accelerating space weapons programs.


Bush will do anything now - it's all based on lies.

We should bring people in from the military industrial complex to learn
what's in their field. The military has a role to play for peace in space.
And they'd rather do that than fight.

Everyone must get involved. Focus on the good everyone, even the war
industry, can do.

We can create "peace on earth through peace in space".

Answers to Questions from the Audience:

The biggest supporters of "The Disclosure Project" are from those in the
military industrial complex who learn of it and know the true risks of our
inaction.

There must be honest disclosure. Secrecy is like an abscess that has
festered for 60 years.

If people knew the benevolent nature of life in the universe, they would
move us ahead.

Governments are masters of spin. So many people have been brainwashed (re:
aliens) "The Disclosure Project" speaks of getting to know our neighbors in
space.

Strategic Deception - space weapons have been ongoing since the '70's - and
are really going on, now.

What we think is being done by terrorists may actually be done by
space-based weaponry.

Role of musicians and artists - "Organizing Artists for Disclosure" - will
include Bono of U2, ZZ Top. A record company in Boulder is helping Greer to
organize a CD.

The visual and creative arts can be used positively, rather than for
disinformation, as they are now. Carol Rosin is trying to reach people with
positive images of aliens in cinema and education.

Greer: Faraday, Tesla advocated getting energy from existing space.

Braun worked on anti-gravitic energy. Boeing has had anti-gravity propulsion
systems since '50's.

Rosin suggests that people take the media to lunch. Present disclosure as a
positive, and see the media person as a positive agent.

"Time and the truth are on our side".

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