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  Transcript: Has the FBI Ignored Information About the OKC Bombing?

Tuesday, May 15, 2001



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BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the "Unresolved Problem" segment tonight,
investigative reporter Jayna Davis told us a few weeks ago that she
tried to deliver information to the FBI about others involved in the
Oklahoma City bombing but was rebuffed. Ms. Davis joins us now for
an update from Oklahoma City.

Well, we finally got the FBI to tell us why they didn't take your
stuff, Jayna, and they said they didn't want to have it on file so
that they would have to turn it over to McVeigh and Nichols'
attorneys in discovery because they couldn't check out what you
said, and that seemed to make sense to me. Does it make sense to
you?

JAYNA DAVIS, FORMER KFOR INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Absolutely not.
This was turned over initially in June of 1995 and I made several
attempts in the following months, in the spring and summer of '95,
to share this information with the FBI and they were very interested
initially and I was talking to an FBI agent regularly in May and
June of 1995. So I don't understand why it's...

O'REILLY: Yeah, but they came to the conclusion if we take
information from this woman and we haven't checked it out and
McVeigh and Nichols' attorneys want it, we have to turn it over to
them and that's going to hurt our prosecution.

DAVIS: Yes, but they lost interest, Bill. In September and -- I'm
sorry, in the spring and summer of '95. I went back to them in
September of '97 to turn it over. But they had plenty of time
between the spring and summer of '95 and September of '97 when I
returned.

O'REILLY: To check your story out.

DAVIS: Yes, they did.

O'REILLY: Right. Well, they didn't want to do that, obviously. All
right, now, you believe that there's a Middle Eastern connection
here to McVeigh and Nichols. You also believe that Osama bin Laden's
money may have been involved here. Briefly, tell the audience what
you think happened.

DAVIS: I believe that a Arab terrorist cell operating in the heart
of Oklahoma City funded and operated and backed by Osama bin Laden
acted in collusion with Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols and I have
24 sworn witness affidavits to back that up from witnesses who saw
Arab men in the presence of these two prime suspects, and now the
bombing convicts, at various stages of the bombing plot.

O'REILLY: All right, now, your own station has kind of turned on you
and, you know, discredited you. Why did they do that? You used to
work for KFOR TV in Oklahoma City. Why did that station turn on you?

DAVIS: They actually didn't turn on me.

O'REILLY: Well, they're suing you, I think, aren't they?

DAVIS: No, they are not. No. The station was sold...

O'REILLY: The lawsuit was eventually thrown out by the judge. OK.

DAVIS: Yes, it was. Yes, it was.

O'REILLY: Right. And so they did but they don't like you, Jayna, you
know that.

DAVIS: Well, to better explain it, when I left the station in the
fall of 1997 I took with me all the confidential witness statements
and informed station management that I had it in my possession. The
"New York Times" purchased KFOR Television some time in the summer
of '96 and when I left in the winter of '97, I informed them that I
took my confidential witness statements. They sued me for those
statements.

O'REILLY: Why? Why did they do that?

DAVIS: I don't understand. They were interested in the material and
they said I needed to turn it over. However, I just wanted from them
a signed release that they wouldn't publish those statements without
the express written consent of the witnesses and the judge upheld my
first...

O'REILLY: So you wanted to protect your sources is what you wanted
to do?

DAVIS: Yes, I did. I wanted to protect my sources.

O'REILLY: OK, so you...

DAVIS: As I had promised.

O'REILLY: I asked you this question the first time around. We have a
minute left so I'm going to ask you again. Do you have any idea why
the FBI wouldn't want full disclosure, if your theory is correct, of
Middle Eastern involvement?

DAVIS: I cannot speculate. I cannot get into the mind of the FBI. I,
as I told you before, that is a question for the former attorney
general and for the people in the Department of Justice that were in
a position to make the decision whether or not they would take this
evidence and thoroughly investigate it.

O'REILLY: All right, do you think, are you going to take this any
further? You got anything else down the road that you can put
pressure on them?

DAVIS: Well, I have direct knowledge of a prior warning that was
issued on February 27th of 1995 that contained the language that
there would be an Iran-sponsored Islamic attack and the first
potential target was Washington, D.C., the White House and Congress
and I don't believe that that information was turned over to the
Nichols defense team or the McVeigh defense team. I know that for a
fact.

O'REILLY: All right, Jayna, well, stay on the case and we appreciate
the update. Thank you very much.

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