-Caveat Lector- ----- Original Message ----- From: David Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 1:26 PM Subject: 145-National ID Post Number 145: National ID Card Freedom? How free are you, really? Ever wonder about that, or about some of the rumors you hear being bandied about? Well, you are about to learn, first hand, what the real nature of the United States government (a corporation in bankruptcy and under the control of the International Monetary Fund) is. This is not a pretty picture, but what is coming is what amounts to an internal passport, where you will have to show your "approved" ID for travel, for "work," and for any other activity, such as banking, that you now foolishly take for granted. Welcome, to a brave new world. Oh, and as you read this first part, please note that license is simply another word for tax. BUT DON'T FORGET WE LIVE IN A FREE COUNTRY Last fall, as I was preparing to go on my annual 10-day, Montana elk hunt, I learned that I would have to obtain a brand inspection for the donkey I had purchased to pack gear - this license because I would cross county lines, and I might be deemed a "rustler" without it. So, it suddenly occurred to me to count up the necessary licenses, without which I couldn't make the hunting trip. 1. Drivers license 2. Motor vehicle title (pickup) 3. Motor vehicle registration 4. Motor vehicle license and plates 5. Trailer # 1 (haul camp gear) title 6. Trailer # 1 registration 7. Trailer # 1 license and plate 8. Trailer # 2 (carry donkey) title 9. Trailer # 2 registration 10. Trailer # 2 license and plate 11. Conservation license 12. Elk hunting license 13. Deer hunting license 14. State lands access permit 15. Forest Service firewood cutting permit 16. Donkey transport permit and bill of sale (brand inspection) As I was traveling slowly (with two trailers) down the road headed for hunting camp, I was counting up these government permissions, and realized that I had even more permits in my wallet. 1. Concealed weapon carry permit 2. Private pesticide applicator's license 3. Commercial pesticide applicator's license 4. Voter registration permit Then it occurred to me to think of the other permits that I had at home that are critical to my daily existence. 1. Business license (to be in business for myself) 2. Occupancy permit for my home, including these permits I had to get to build my home: a. zoning and comprehensive plan compliance permit b. building permit c. excavation permit d. septic permit e. electrical permit f. foundation permit 3. Lobbyist permit (to lobby the Legislature to uphold the Constitution) I am told that the necessary laws are already passed to require every person to have and carry an internal passport, smart card driver's license, by October 1st of 2,000. Then, a person will need to obtain government permission to travel, and probably to breathe. Best wishes, Gary S. Marbut, President Montana Shooting Sports Association If you are looking for a newspaper with good news and timely articles, I recommend this one, The Jubilee. I have received it before, and I always found it to be Truthful and full of facts. Washington Grassroots Email Network Subject: NID: National ID Card Is Now Federal Law HREF="http://www.jubilee-newspaper.com/id_card_95.htm">http://www.jubilee-ne ws paper.com/id_card_95.htm The Jubilee Newspaper P.O. Box 310 Midpines, CA 95345 1-209-742-NEWS Copies of this issue V9n5 are available from The Jubilee Circulation Dept. National ID Card Is Now Federal Law by Cyndee Parker In September of 1996, President Clinton signed into law, the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996. Buried at approximately page 650 of the new national Defense Bill, also known as Public Law 104-208, Part B, Title IV, the American public was given a national ID card. With no fanfare, no publicity and no scrutiny, the bill easily avoided the watchful eyes of even its most aggressive opponents. The Coalition to Repeal the Fingerprints Law, a Georgia grassroots movement trying to rid the state of the new requirement to give digital fingerprints in order to obtain a state ID or driver's license, recently discovered the national ID tie. The group found that the national law not only mandates a national ID card, but found how it is to be used. In Section 401-403, pilot programs have been initiated by the U.S. Attorney General, one of which is the "Machine Readable Document Pilot Program." In this particular program, employers would have to "procure" a document reader linked to the federal government's Social Security Administration in order to have the potential employee swipe their new driver's license/national ID card through the reader. Then, it would be up to the federal government to either approve or disapprove the applicant for employment. Section 326 and 327 provide $5,000,000 per year grants to each state participating in any of the three pilot programs. The money has been allocated through the Criminal Alien Tracking Center and is called the Criminal Alien Identification System. The "automated identification system," which is to be used by "Federal, State, and local law enforcement" and will "provide for recording of fingerprints of aliens previously arrested and removed." The grants run from "fiscal years 1997 through 2001." Additionally, Section 656 of the new law states that "after October 1, 2000, Federal agencies may only accept as proof of identity driver's licenses that conform to standards developed by the Secretary of the Treasury," after consultation with state motor vehicle officials and the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators. The AAMVA sees digital fingerprinting as the best way to go in driver's license identifiers. Fearing that all Americans were about to be digitally tattooed under the government's paranoiac guise of catching everything from aliens to dead beat dads, Congressman Dick Armey (R-TX) was one of the first to voice his opinion. Armey called the move, "an abomination and wholly at odds with the American tradition of individual freedom." Senator Spencer Abraham (R-MI) joined Armey in signing a letter denouncing the computer registry and tracking system and Jack Kemp announced in the New York Times that this was, "an anti-privacy, anti-business and anti-American approach" and that "it was no way to run immigration policy." Of course, all this was said before the bills were snuck through in the last defense bill. There is a possibility at this time, they don't even know the proposed legislation became law. For the first time in American history and reminiscent of Communist countries, our government would have the ability to grant approval before a private company enters into private employment contracts with private citizens. Because of the nature of the employment system alone, personal information would be accessible to local agencies and anyone who even claims to be an employer. The government would have comprehensive files of all American citizen's names, dates of birth, place of birth, mother's maiden names, Social Security numbers, gender, race, driving records, child support payments, divorce status, hair color, eye color, height, weight, and anything else they may dream up in the future. On May 10, 1995, a hearing was held by the Senate Subcommittee on Immigration entitled, "Verification of Applicant Identity for the Purposes of Employment and Public Assistance." The hearing was chaired by Senator Alan Simpson (R-WY) and attended by Senators Ted Kennedy (D-MA), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), and John Kyl (R-AZ). Robert Razor of the Secret Service Financial Crimes Division gave the Subcommittee an explanation of the emerging biometric technological role in personal identification. He said, "The use of biometrics is the means by which an individual may be conclusively identified. There are two types of biometric identifiers: physical and behavioral characteristics. Physiological biometrics include facial features, hand geometry, retinal and iris patterns, DNA, and fingerprints. Behavioral characteristics include voice characteristics and signature analysis." Now the people of America not only must have digital tattoos on their driver's licenses, we must also give information to the government when boarding commercial aircraft, called personality profiles, along with a government ID card. Of course, this guise is in order to catch some would-be terrorist. Dianne Feinstein, author of the national ID law, explained in a Capitol Hill magazine that it was her intention to see Congress immediately implement a national identity system where every American is required to carry a card with a "magnetic strip on it which the bearer's unique voice, retina pattern, or fingerprint is digitally encoded." She also stated that "fifteen years ago, they would have torn the building down." We probably would have if we had known about it. (I hope she doesn't mind that Georgia left out the magnetic strip and replaced it with two dimensional bar-coding.) During closing remarks of the May 10th Subcommittee meeting, Senator Alan Simpson stated, "There is much to do here, but I was just saying to Ted [Kennedy] before he left, a hearing like this fifteen years ago, would have torn the building down. And here we are today, just a bunch of us, kind of sitting around and no media, no nothing. This is fine with me. I get tired of them on this issue." Based on other federal mandates, the Associated Press reported in the Wichita Eagle on March 6, 1997 that the "Federal government mandates a registry of new employees: State lawmakers balk at bill required by Congress to ease child support collection. A bill designed to increase state collection of child support payments was described as a 'Big Brother' move and drew little support from members of the Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday. But the federal government says the legislature must pass it or the state could lose as much as $29 million in federal funds." The bill referred to requires the state to set up a "new hires directory" that would require all employers to report to the state information about every newly hired employee. The directory would be made available to the Department of Social and Rehabilitation Services for child support collections. In the article, they reported that "the date in Kansas and other states, although confidential, would be available to a national directory of new hires." They further reported that all people would be listed, regardless of age and even those that have no child support obligation. The Senate Judiciary Committee in Kansas was quick to offer comments condemning the federal mandate. Senator Mike Harris from Wichita, the committee chairman said, "This is the most potentially significant, far-reaching piece of legislation that has come through this committee." The legislators from both parties referred to "Big Brother" and George Orwell's novel, "1984." Kansas State Senator Paul Feleciano of Wichita said, "If ever we give witness to Big Brother watching over us, this is the beginning of it." Sen. Ed Pugh of Wamego had sharper words for the bill. He said, "I don't see how it can be drafted by someone in a free society. It's a perfect example of the ends justifying the means." These Kansas lawmakers are not referring to the Immigration Act, but to another new federal law, the Welfare Reform Act. If Kansas refuses to have a state bill in place later this year, they will loose as much as $29 million in federal funds for child support collection. Senator Pugh said it is a "wholesale assault on Constitutional rights." The new driver's license requirement mandating fingerprints for Georgia driver's and those wanting ID cards passed the state legislature with virtually no public or media attention in April of 1996. The first known announcement was on the local Atlanta news announcing an October, 1996 date to begin fingerprinting. (Cyndee Parker, now a coordinator for the Coalition to Repeal the Fingerprint Law in Georgia began the campaign to repeal the egregious law.) Many Georgia lawmakers joined in on the repeal efforts. Representatives Mitchell Kaye, Brian Joyce, Vernon Jones and Senator Pam Glanton were the first to help lead the repeal efforts in the General Assembly of Georgia. Eight bills were drawn by the House and one by the Senate. Mitchell Kaye refers to the law as, "tracking us like a can of dog food." Due to the Governor's and House Speaker's manipulations, all eight House bills were held hostage by the House Motor Vehicle's Committee and were never voted on. The Senate overwhelmingly passed a Senate Bill, only to find it placed as hostage, along with the other bills in Motor Vehicles. On the last night of the Georgia Session, Senator Glanton amended another driver's license related bill and it also was never voted on by the House due to the same manipulations, illegal rule changes and an incredible amount of confusion on the House Floor. Governor Miller stated numerous times during the year that he would veto any repeal effort. House Speaker Tom Murphy was happy to see that the Governor did not have to get out his veto pen. Georgia just slipped theirs through unnoticed by lawmakers and the public, the same way the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act was. The group also had to notify their United States Congressional Representatives and Senators, as they were unaware of the facts as well. Both State and Federal Representatives and Senators had absolutely no knowledge they had passed the new laws until the Coalition brought it to their attention. · The Coalition to Repeal the Fingerprints Law can be reached at 404-250-8105 <<A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit their web site at: <A HREF="http://www.mcwebs.com/repeal/ ">http://www.mcwebs.com/repeal/ Copies of this issue V9n5 are available from The Jubilee Circulation Dept. The above information is only a part of the story. Please E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] and request Part II of Post 145: National ID. As more and more people begin to starve to death around the world, because of actions directly related to Washington, DC, perhaps more Americans will begin to understand why judgement will come against them. The United States (not America), is the New World Order, and most of the rest of the world understands this. Please think about this: Only in America... do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poli' in Latin meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'. I urge you to pass this post on to others, or post it as you see fit to the Internet, unaltered in any way, as others may need to understand what is going on. We all have a moral obligation to help understanding and knowledge spread across America. "But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet to warn the people and the sword comes and takes the life of one of them, that man will be taken away because of his sin, but I will hold the watchman accountable for his blood." 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You can set your delivery mode to: * individual e-mails * daily summaries * daily full-text digest * read it on the Web only It also appears that I will be working on the Internet newsletter American Taxpayer as a contributing writer. I have agreed that the writing that I do for this Newsletter will be proprietary information, which means I will not release it elsewhere. If you are interested in subscribing to this Newsletter, please contact me. Is information in this post for real? I assure you it is. If you do not understand, I suggest you begin reading the papers that I have prepared for people just like you (no cost; no obligation). There are currently 19 papers in all and they cover health, cancer, nutrition, the Constitution, citizenship, law, case law, nature, and many other subjects. Currently, there are at least 7 doctors, 3 lawyers, 1 judge (that I know of), 4 college/university professors and many others reading the information. They read because they are learning; maybe you should as well. Your first paper will be about United States citizenship, and what case law says about it. Case law from the federal courts, for instance. The second paper is on the Constitution. To understand the world around you it is necessary to understand Scripture, and one piece of information from Scripture is particularly telling; "the LOVE of money is the root of ALL evil." Not some evil; not most evil; ALL evil. Private courts the IRS uses are simply another way to prey on the uninformed; please, do not stay uninformed. Learn what is really going on in America. Learn why the United States government (a corporation [in bankruptcy]) allows abuse of people like the fraudulent IRS. I will be sending other Posts I consider important; please pass them on to those you consider in need of information. Please pass them on unedited. David If you are interested in my series, please E-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and let's get started! 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