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Yes, young Grasshopper, your suspicions are warranted.

All readers should know that the moral fiber of the Phoenix FBI is lower than
whale shit and this FBI office has been integral to fake terror of the past.
Remember it was Phoenix SAC FBI Weldon Kennedy who was charged with the top
FBI oversight of the OKBOMB investigation --- because the McVeigh plot was
considered an Arizona plot.  Weldon Kennedy was responsible for countless
fertilizer stories.

This planted AP article tends to make the Phoenix FBI look good, does it
not?  This tactic worked well for the MOSSAD who showed itself to be so much
better informed than the CIA and the NSA before the 911.

I even know the name of the individual who originated this planted story but
I can not reveal it without burning a well placed source.

This Hani Hanjour practiced on the simulator at SAWYER AVIATION where I once
took pilot lessons myself.  My being able to do what he is supposed to have
done is off the scale unthinkable.  This story makes about as much sense as
Lee Harvey selecting the MANLICHER CARCANO as his assassination weapon of
choice or these box cutters.  I think these are all examples of DUMB ASPECTS
of these black ops which were thrown in to just be confusing.

I want to make one additional point which any pilot will also confirm.  Bob,
who is definitely not easily misled, once posted that he could understand why
Mohammed Atta could leave Arabic flight manuals in his rental car at Logan.
He said something about it being understandable that he would want to do some
last minute boning up.

My flight instructor used to say YOUR IQ GOES DOWN 50% THE MINUTE YOU START
THE ENGINE OF A PLANE.  It is not possible to THINK yourself out of a serious
spin.  All flying must be so practiced that it is second nature and done by
FEEL.  No pilot would think of manuals at that point of a carefully planned
mission.  Any pilot who would need to do that would not be reliable enough
for mission consideration.

No these manuals, that became the first news of the hi-jackers identity, were
planted just like the Mohammed Atta passport that crashed through the WTC
only to be found in perfect condition in 3 feet of ruble 2 blocks away from
the hits.

Brian Quig


econtv wrote:

> what's near phoenix?
>
> hint: it starts with an "m."
>
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "mcurb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > FBI Warned of Training Before 11th
> >
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> > By John Solomon
> > Associated Press Writer
> > Friday, May 3, 2002; 1:57 AM
> >
> > WASHINGTON –– Two months before the suicide hijackings, an FBI
> agent
> > in Arizona alerted Washington headquarters that several Middle
> > Easterners were training at a U.S. aviation school and recommended
> > contacting other schools nationwide where Arabs might be studying,
> > law enforcement officials said.
> >
> > The FBI sent the intelligence to its terrorism experts in
> Washington
> > and New York for analysis and had begun discussing conducting a
> > nationwide canvass of flight schools when the Sept. 11 tragedies
> > occurred, officials told The Associated Press.
> >
> > At least one leader of the 19 hijackers, Hani Hanjour, received
> > flight training in Arizona in 2001 but his name had not surfaced in
> > the FBI intelligence from Arizona, the officials said.
> >
> > None of the Middle Eastern men identified by the Arizona
> > counterterrorism agents or any information contained in their July
> > 2001 memo pointed to the suicide plot that leveled the World Trade
> > Center and killed thousands in New York, Washington and
> Pennsylvania,
> > officials said.
> >
> > "None of the people identified by Phoenix are connected to the
> Sept.
> > 11 attacks," FBI Assistant Director John Collingwood said Thursday
> > night.
> >
> > "The Phoenix communication went to appropriate operational agents
> and
> > analysts but it did not lead to uncovering the impending attacks,"
> > Collingwood said.
> >
> > Officials said FBI counterterrorism agents in Phoenix
> > had "suspicions" about why several Arab men were seeking airport
> > operations, security information and pilot training and
> recommended,
> > among other things, that the FBI begin alerting local agents when
> > Middle Easterners sought visas for training at local aeronautical
> > schools, officials said.
> >
> > The FBI's concerns about the U.S. flight schools is the latest
> > revelation about information, much of it sketchy, that the
> government
> > possessed before Sept. 11 concerning the possibility of terrorism
> in
> > the skies. For example:
> >
> > –AP reported last month that Filipino authorities alerted the FBI
> as
> > early as 1995 that several Middle Eastern pilots were training at
> > American flight schools and at least one had proposed hijacking a
> > commercial jet and crashing it into federal buildings.
> >
> > –A month after the 2001 memo from Arizona to FBI headquarters, FBI
> > agents in Minnesota arrested a French citizen of Moroccan descent,
> > Zacarias Moussaoui, after a flight school instructor became
> > suspicious of his desire to learn to fly a commercial jet.
> >
> > Moussaoui has since emerged as the single most important defendant
> in
> > the post-Sept. 11 terrorism investigation, charged with conspiring
> > with the hijackers and Osama bin Laden to kill thousands of
> > Americans. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.
> >
> > –About the same time as the Phoenix memo and Moussaoui's arrest,
> U.S.
> > intelligence issued a late summer warning that there was heightened
> > risk of a terrorist attack on Americans, possibly even on U.S.
> soil,
> > officials have said.
> >
> > Law enforcement officials said in retrospect the FBI believes it
> > should have accelerated the suggested check of U.S. flight schools
> > after Moussaoui's arrest but does not believe it would have led to
> > the hijackers.
> >
> > FBI officials said a supervisory agent in Arizona wrote a several-
> > page memo to FBI headquarters in July 2001 laying out information
> his
> > counterterrorism team had developed in an unrelated investigation.
> A
> > portion of the memo dealt with an Arizona flight school, officials
> > said.
> >
> > The memo indicated agents were suspicious about why several
> > nonresident Arab men were seeking training at a commercial
> > aeronautical school in Prescott, Ariz.
> >
> > Collingwood said the men "were enrolled in various aspects of civil
> > aviation engineering, airport operations and pilot training." The
> > agents were particularly concerned that some were attempting to
> learn
> > about airport security operations, officials said.
> >
> > The Phoenix memo urged FBI headquarters to assemble a list of U.S.
> > aviation academies and to instruct field offices across the country
> > to "liaison" with their local schools where other Middle Easterners
> > might be training, officials said.
> >
> > The information was shared with intelligence analysts who monitored
> > terrorist threats and was even sent to the FBI office in New York
> > that had the most experience with terrorism cases, officials said.
> >
> > After the suicide attacks, the FBI quickly descended upon flight
> > schools nationwide, identifying academies in Florida, Arizona and
> > elsewhere where the leaders of the 19 hijackers trained.
> >
> > Hanjour, believed to have piloted the jetliner that crashed into
> the
> > Pentagon, trained at a flight academy in Phoenix between January
> and
> > March 2001, the government has said in court documents.
> >
> > Some witnesses have also said they believe another hijacker, Ziad
> > Samir Jarrah, trained on an Arizona flight simulator in the months
> > before the attacks. But the FBI has no evidence that either man was
> > connected to the Prescott school identified in the July 2001 memo,
> > officials said.
> >
> > The FBI also investigated whether an Algerian pilot who spent time
> in
> > Arizona may have helped train the hijackers before leaving the
> United
> > States before the attacks.
> >
> > That man, Lotfi Raissi, was later apprehended in Britain, but U.S.
> > officials failed to persuade a court there to extradite him to the
> > United States. Law enforcement officials say their suspicions about
> > his connections to the hijackers have since fizzled.
> >
> > An Arizona businessman who assisted U.S. intelligence said he
> alerted
> > the FBI in the mid-1990s that one or more Middle Eastern pilots
> were
> > training or working in his state and appeared suspicious.
> >
> > Harry Ellen said he told an FBI agent in Phoenix in late 1996 or
> > early 1997 that he met an Algerian pilot and several Middle Eastern
> > men at an Arizona mosque. Ellen assisted U.S. intelligence during
> the
> > 1990s but later had a falling out over his business and personal
> > dealings in Asia and the Middle East.
> >
> > "I brought this to the attention of an agent in the local FBI whom
> I
> > knew," Ellen said. "They did not seem particularly interested in
> the
> > presence of these people. I stressed it was very odd that the
> > Algerian man was involved in aviation."
> >
> > "One of the other men I believe was probably Mr. Raissi, although
> he
> > would have been thinner and younger at the time," Ellen said.
> >
> > Law enforcement officials said that while Ellen helped the FBI,
> > agents in Arizona have no record or recollection of him providing
> > information about pilots.
> >
> > © 2002 The Associated Press
>
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