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--- Begin Message --- -Caveat Lector-I though you were inviting debate Mr. Berlet? Here is what I posted, what strikes you as 'vitriol and rude and nasty comments'? How is that different from what you originally wrote in your original e-mail charactering somebody's writing as 'hyperbole'? In my world what I wrote is known as polemics. And again, it is up to you not to defame Ruppert and you should have no fear of lawsuits.
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Firstly Mr. Berlet, the fact that Mr. Ruppert has threatened to sue you for defamation should not prevent you from criticising him - unless you agree that your criticisms of him are in fact defamatory. You, like any other journalist, are free to say what you want. If you defame people, however they might sue you. Mr. Berlet, whatever happened on September 11, 1999 was the result of a conspiracy. Any account of the events leading up to it will necessarily be 'conspiratorial' how could it be otherwise? What do you think happened, a natural disaster? The attack was evidently planned in secret by more than one person, ergo a conspiracy, and apparently, according to even the mainstream press, they received at least a little (inadvertent) help from US authorities. Whenever a crime takes place, law enforcement authorities develop 'conspiracy theories' to determine, frequently based on flimsy evidence, who committed the crime. If you were really concerned about the danger of conspiracy theories, you might want to spend your time critiquing the conspiracy theories of prosecutors that have contributed to the staggering number of people in jail, not to mention death row - on conspiracy charges. *You* are the purveyor of hyperbole, you cannot seem to complete a sentence without uttering the words, 'anti-semitic' and/or 'conspiracy'. You are not addressing the evidence. You have not, as far as I know, offered your own indenpent theory of what happened on 9-11 - but then I suppose you are not in the business of writing original stories about political phenomena, only taking scurrilous pot-shots at the work of others who dedicate their lives, unsupported by foundation grants, to tell the truth as they see it. I defy you to point out one instance of 'lack of evidence' for anything that Mike Ruppert, Cheryl Seal, Michel Chussodovsky, Jared Israel or any other independent journalist, researcher has written or said about 9-11. They have presented their interpretations of the large body of evidence in the public domain and some of it obtained through their respective intelligence contacts. You are welcome to disagree that they have made their case, as are their readers. What is odious about your role, is that you presume to act as the high priest of political reality, the gatekeeper of what people are allowed to think and hear. if you don't like Rupperts work, ignore him. It is an insult to the intelligence and political astutenesss of preogressives to suggest that they/we need you to tell us what to think.
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chipberlet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
The reality is that it is relatively inexpensive to file a lawsuit
for defamation, but it costs anywhere from $10,000 to $50,000 to hire
an attorney and defend yourself against a defamation lawsuit, no
matter how frivolous. I have been sued for defamation several times.
In each case the person suing me lost the case. In one case it cost
the non-profit I worked for over $15,000 just to have a judge rule
that I did not belong in the lawsuit. So your argument below is
simply not true. It is not based on the real world of litigation. You
might want it to be true, but it is not true. I felt that my
criticisms of Mr. Ruppert were justified. Have you read the
statement posted on the website where I clarify the dispute between
me and Mr. Ruppert? Please comment on that concrete matter, rather
than engaging in unfounded specualtion. The rest of you post was
largely rude and nasty personal attack. I hope that this list can
avoid such vitriole in further discussions.
-Chip Berlet
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> Firstly Mr. Berlet, the fact that Mr. Ruppert has threatened to sue
you for defamation should not prevent you from criticising him -
unless you agree that your criticisms of him are in fact defamatory.
You, like any other journalist, are free to say what you want. If you
defame people, however they might sue you.
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