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> > > > > 12/15/98--was sincerely hoping we could get your reaction ot the
latest of laurence gardner's theories.  do his ideas fit your concept of the
beginning of the bloodline ?     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>


COUNT***> That is a good question. As Mr Gardner's ideas have become a mixture
of
> various other author's and scholar's views (some of which are on the
> right track and others which are somewhat dubious), I would say yes and
> no. As our friends in the posting group have mentioned before, Gardner
> is working from a personal agenda, and I can vouch for that viewpoint. I
> could liken his situation to a person who knows that history making
> events will soon be taking place, and he does not want to miss the glory
> involved. General Patton worried about the same thing, but he was
> destined to be in the fray that was known as W.W.II. I know that your
> next question would be: what of Gardner's views are correct about the
> Bloodline? The antiquity, the Holy right of Kingship, the line of
> descent(in general terms), and various events in the Bloodline's history
> which have been hidden or obscured from history.
>
>

> > > >  ---- you wrote:
> > > > > > well, you said to look in the middle east for the font of the
bloodline.  that pretty much has to mean sumeria.  you didn't like my ishtar
and tammuz speculation.> > > > > > is gardner correct ?  that the bloodline
begins with cain and etana ?
>


COUNT*****> There were many Cains in history, as the human race as
> Homo-sapiens-sapiens are over 150,000 years old. Which one could he be
> referring to? Names are such interchangeable things in the ancient's
> books. No, the bloodline was not begun with any Cain in history. Etana
> is a close approximation to the start, as the God Kings were descended
> from him. But, he was not the starting point. The original starting
> point would be Adapa, but that is not the official starting point of
> Kingship. Officially, Nimrod was the first King sanctioned by God.
> Research in that area of history. The Bloodline stretches back beyond
> recorded history, but it's Kingship began with Nimrod.
>
>
I have a few comments to make about the following commentary.
>


> > > > > > > > the word 'kingship' derived from 'cainship,' referring to the
Biblical
> > > > > > > > cain. (for importance of cain, see part one)
>


COUNT***> No. There were Heavenly Kings long before Cain.



> > > > > > > > stresses the importance of melatonin ingestion to most
efficiently
> > > > > > > > metabolize the intake of pineal gland secretions ---
'melatonin'
> > > > > > > > meaning night worker or night laborer
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > those with high melatonin output react negatively to sunlight
; they
> > > > > > > > are 'night operatives'
> > > > > > > > . . . 'by virtue of their bodily conditioning through
supplementary
> > > > > > > > melatonin and other hormonal secretions, they [grail kings]
were in
> > > > > > > > fact princes of darkness'
>


COUNT****> I must admit that I have never liked the sunlight, and I highly
prefer
> the night and darkness in general. I am and always have been what is
> termed a "night person", but "Princes of Darkness"? I'm sorry, but, it
> seems to me that Mr. Gardner is about to suggest that we are vampires of
> some sort. That is totally preposterous. We know that the melatonin our
> body produces can cause interesting anomalies when it is augmented by an
> external means. It is also believed that individuals with advanced
> psychic ability have higher output of melatonin than the ordinary
> person.
> I have never taken any melatonin, and my family has not been known to
> take it either, but there may be a possibility that it was taken in the
> past. I would think that whatever ability you would gain from it's
> application would have to already be present. In other words, an
> ordinary individual couldn't take a few pills and begin reading minds or
> using the Matrix.
>

> > > > > > > > ancient egyptian court of the dragon (see part one) carried on
after
> > > > > > > > lapses of centuries : 15th century chancellor of dragon court
was
> > > > > > > > prince vlad III of transylvania-wallachia
> > > > > > > >


COUNT****> It sounds like Dracula is about to be brought up. Tales of
vampirism
> have abounded in almost every civilization since the beginning of
> recorded history. I continue to see small pieces of truth wrapped in
> lies and exaggerations. I look forward to a time when the complete truth
> is known by all, but that time is not yet upon us.
>
>
> > > > > > > incursions into sumeria by akkadians, amorites, and elamits
caused the
> > > > > > > > civilization to decline ; thus, abraham leaves the city of ur
>
>


COUNT*****> Why were there incursions? Why did Abram leave Ur? Look into this
area
> as well.
>
>

> > > > > > > > in time, the starfire 'cocktail'(see part one) was replaced by
the
> > > > > > > > eating of a white powder, monoatomic gold, to heighten
consiousness
>


COUNT*****> It seems to me that Gardner has confused the God's elixir of
eternal
> life with what he calls the "starfire cocktail". We do not have the
> materials for the elixir. The white powder he speaks of, is reminiscent
> of various Egyptian rituals.
>
> I've commented on a few more paragraphs below.
>
>

> > > > > > > > > > > Sumerian writings of 3700 b.c.e. tell us these gods were
> > > > > > > > brothers
> > > > > > > > > > > enlil
> > > > > > > > > > > > (Jehovah) and enki (Adon)
>
>

COUNT****> They were mistaken names. Though Enlil was equated with
Yahweh(Jehovah),
> which was a misunderstanding, an actual Yahweh existed, who even Anu,
> Enlil, and Enki were subordinate to.
>
>
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hermetic schools of pharoah tuthmosis III ca. 1450
b.c.e. --
> > > > > > > > royal
> > > > > > > > > > > court
> > > > > > > > > > > > of the dragon (crocodile) -- founded by the egyptian
priests
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > mendes
> > > > > > > > > > > > ca. 2200 b.c.e.
>
>
>
>
COUNT****Also sometimes referred to as Leviathan. I have a few interesting
facts
> concerning Leviathan, of which I'll save for a later date.
>
>
>

> > > > > > > > > > > > the order of the dragon passed through egypt to kings
of
> > > > > > > > jerusalem to the black sea princes of scythia to the balkans
to the
> > > > > > > > royal house of hungary -- king sigismund revived royal court
of the
> > > > > > > > dragon
> > > > > > > > > > > sovereignty in 14th century
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > pharoahs annointed with fat of the crocodile (dragon)
--
> > > > > > > > crocodile
> > > > > > > > > > > > referred to as 'messeh' and the sovereigns became
known as
> > > > > > > > dragons or messiahs
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > in times of battle, the armies of the various egyptian
> > > > > > > kingdoms
> > > > > > > > > > > banded
> > > > > > > > > > > > together and elected a war lord known as the great
dragon or
> > > > > > > > > > > pendragon
> > > > > > > > > > > > of the line of king arthur
>
>
>

COUNT*****> This information is partially true. Sigismund is one of my
ancestors,
> and the Pharaoh's were anointed in crocodile fat.
>
>
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > first king of the messianic dragon was the biblical
cain, head
> > > > > > > > of the sumerian house of kish
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Jesus' ancestor was not seth, son of adam and eve, but
cain,
> > > > > > > > son of
> > > > > > > > > > > eve and the Lord (Adon)
>
>

COUNT****> No.
>
>

> > > > > > > > > > > > gene of the succession within the messianic/dragon
bloodline
> > > > > > > > carried
> > > > > > > > > > > > within the blood of the mother
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > dragon family members orginally fed on menstrum of
Ninkhursag,
> > > > > > > > enki's sister -- menstrum known as 'star fire' -- this goddess
was
> > > > > > > > known as
> > > > > > > > > > > > isis to the egyptians
>
>
>

COUNT*****> No. We're getting Mother worship mixed up in a group that
originally
> were, and continue to be patrilineal. Matrilineal groups were started by
> Ishtar and continue in one form or another to worship her image today.
> There is plenty of information about her in the texts. Though related,
> that is of no major importance.
>
>
>

> I hope that I have been able to answer your questions satisfactorily.
> Have a very pleasant holiday and a happy new year.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ct. Roman A.U. Guelfi
> Commandeur du Order de Sion
> Magister Templi du Internacionale
> Order du Temple de Solomon
> A.O.
>


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