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[Kris Millegan]

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Title: WorldNetDaily: Chinese fighters killed in U.S. strikes

Thanks, this was very helpful.   In order to justify the position that the Chinese government was supporting the Taliban would fly in the face of the fact that AIG, the second largest pool of investment capital in the world has not just major investment (a total understatement) in China but so do major corporations like Lockheed, Boeing, Pepsi, Coke and Microsoft. There's an old saying that in a ham and eggs breakfast the chicken is involved but the pig is committed. These guys are pigs. China is the biggest market in the world.   That is not to even discuss the fact of the Bush family's longstanding Chinese commitments, the fact that China was rushed into the WTO two days after the attacks, the APEC conference was just held in China and that China urgently needs the Unocal pipeline through Afghanistan to meet its energy needs. It can't build its own pipeline from Central Asia over 3500 miles of hideous terrain, including the northern Himalayas, and the cost of gas and oil, under American technology will be much lower with a 1200 mile pipeline to a seaport in Pakistan. This is stuff that Halliburton does better than the Chinese and they know it.   These China stories are especially "enjoyed" by the old time John Birchers who still think that Mao is going to invade San Francisco. They are totally illogical and hysteria inducing pieces of shameful propaganda.   Mike Ruppert -----Original Message----- From: Dan Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 11:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] WorldNetDaily: "Chinese fighters killed in U.S. strikes" - <http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25026 Your thinking is supported by Ahmed Rashid - both on this issue and on the likelihood of the ISI's Gen Mahmud functioning for Taliban/alQaida in funding Atta    http://www.cnn.com/2001/COMMUNITY/10/19/rashid.cnna/   Ahmed Rashid is the author of the best-selling "Taliban: Militant Islam, Oil and Fundamentalism in Central Asia." As a correspondent for the Far Eastern Economic Review, Rashid has spent 20 years traveling with the Taliban and covering civil war in Afghanistan.   CHAT PARTICIPANT: What are the chances that China will supply the Taliban with weapons through the Iraqis? RASHID: I think it's very unlikely. The Chinese are at the moment supporting the war against terrorism, although they would prefer that the U.S. action be taken under the auspices of the United Nations. China also faces a terrorist threat, because hundreds of Uighurs, or Chinese Muslims, who live in Western China and who are trying to create an independent Islamic state in Western China, have been trained by the Taliban and fight for the Taliban. China has generally oppressed very strongly any Uighur sentiment for independence, and China is clearly likely to use this war against terrorism to step up its own repression of the Uighurs. CHAT PARTICIPANT: Why are they turning this into a "holy" war in the name of Islam, and why has such an extreme from of Islam become so popular? RASHID: The Taliban did not start out with this ideology of global jihad. I think bin Laden has played a major role in influencing their ideology, and in persuading them that they have a major role to play in undermining Western countries and attacking America. The Taliban were initially extremely simple people who were not worldly-wise, and who in fact never really had a foreign policy for the first four years of their existence. It's only when bin Laden met up with the Taliban in 1996 and 1997 that you see the rhetoric of the Taliban change to one of global jihad. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Ruppert To: Richard A. Landkamer Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:51 AM Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] RE: WorldNetDaily: "Chinese fighters killed in U.S. strikes" - <http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25026 When someone other than Debka reprots Chinese fighting with the Taliban I may believe it. What they don't clarify, but clearly imply, is that the Chinese government is behind this. If true, it could be renegade Chinese as Americans fought on both sides in the Spanish Civil War.   In my opinion this is a total red herring, designed to distract American conservatives away from what the CIA is actually doing.   Mike Ruppert -----Original Message----- From: Richard A. Landkamer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:03 AM To: Undisclosed-Recipient:@sys27.hou.wt.net; Subject: WorldNetDaily: "Chinese fighters killed in U.S. strikes" - <http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25026   This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows. To view this item online, visit http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25026 Monday, October 22, 2001 FROM DEBKA INTELLIGENCE FILES Chinese fighters killed in U.S. strikes At least 15 dead found fighting on side of Taliban © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com Military sources in Dushanbe and Bishbek, capitals of Tajikistan and Kyrgizstan respectively, report at least 15 Chinese fighting men on the side of the Taliban, were killed in last week’s U.S. bombing over Kahandar and in a separate incident on the ground, according to the DEBKA intelligence news service. This report was confirmed, reports DEBKA, by Pakistani sources in Peshawar, who discovered the Chinese presence alongside the Taliban from their own intelligence reports on the death of the commander of Arab Afghan troops in Jalalabad. That commander was Basir al Masri, a senior aide to Osama bin Laden and the Egyptian Islamic Jihad chief, Ayman al-Zawahiri. Al Masri appears to have been caught by an American bombardment, just as he was leaving Kahandar for Jalalabad after meeting Taliban leaders. Those leaders warned him as he left that U.S. Special Forces units were operating in the southern and western outskirts of the town. Because they thought the size of his bodyguard insufficient, they offered a detail of their own men to see him safely past the danger zone. Among that armed escort were five Chinese fighters. A Special Forces unit waylaid the group and detonated explosive charges, one of which hit Abu Basir’s vehicle and a second the escort vehicles. Most of the escort was killed, including three of the Chinese guards. The next day, their bodies were carried into Kandahar. Another 10 Chinese fighters were killed in U.S. bombardments, DEBKA reports. The intelligence service reports its sources have no doubt that the Chinese combatants fought in a Taliban unit – and were not part of Osama bin Laden’s Al Qaeda or its associated Egyptian Jihad forces in Afghanistan. Neither organization admits non-Arab adherents – certainly not as guards for its senior officers. The Chinese-bin Laden relationship goes back some years. The British daily, Guardian, carried a report Saturday by John Hooper in Milan, claiming that three years ago, China paid bin Laden several million dollars for unexploded American cruise missiles left over from the U.S. attack on his bases. Hooper quotes an alleged senior Al Qaida agent in Europe, whose account is contained in the transcript of a secretly taped conversation between two bin Laden adherents. The Americans fired 75 missiles in the raid on bin Laden’s bases in Afghanistan, carried out Aug. 20, 1998, in reprisal for the terrorist strikes against U.S. embassies in East Africa. Forty were found unexploded. The conversation taped took place in Milan between a Libyan called Ben Heni -- who was arrested in Munich last week and accused by the Italian prosecution of being the liaison officer between two Al Qaida cells in Frankfurt and Milan – and a leader of the Italian cells, Sami Ben Khemmais Essid. The Italian police had bugged the flat. According to the Guardian report, the two men confirmed bin Laden’s close ties with China and described how the huge sums the Chinese paid for the unexploded U.S. missiles helped him finance his next three years of Al Qaida operations. In addition, the Washington Post reported Sept. 13 that Beijing signed a memorandum of understanding with the Taliban for greater economic and technical cooperation -- the last of a series of Chinese agreements with Afghanistan in the last two years. The Post characterized China's relationship with the Taliban as the closest of any non-Muslim country. The memorandum of understanding was, ironically, signed Sept. 11. 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