The following transcripts are in chronological order for six telephone calls heard nationwide this year on "Coast To Coast A.M." and "Dreamland," radio shows dedicated to 'paranormal' subjects. I am continuing to let others know about the website documenting my experiences offered free of charge on the Internet at http://testament.org and also about the truth that spirit messages/Electronic Voice Phenomena can be heard in an unlimited range of tape recordings and broadcasts. In the following transcripts, spirit messages/EVP are presented in capital letters and parentheses. ***JANUARY 12/13, 2000 "COAST TO COAST A.M." CALL*** Q: Mark Russell Bell B: Bob Frissell, guest R: Rollye James, host R: . . . Mark in the valley - San Fernando - welcome to the Art Bell show. Q: Good evening, Rollye. Well, of course, my take on the "secret government" can be summed up in just two words: self-interest. R: (small laugh) Q: And the "grand unified theory," for that matter, is God I believe. But what I wanted to comment on is that I've been hearing a lot of at best secondhand tonight, if not downright disinformation. And for three years now Art has been covering me up--(as) well as Whitley and Hilly--and my website testament.org. And I just wonder if these are all military disinformation people? Or what's happening? Because when you hear names like David Icke being thrown around - and these are the same guests that come in week and week out. People like Ed Dames. They must be - R: Well I . . . Q: - on some government payroll somewhere because they don't say anything that's usable. R: (terminates call) Okay, Mark, I wish I was on a government payroll because the checks aren't that regular. But I can at least speak on Bob Frissell because when I was talking to the Premiere people the other day, they said, "Who do you want on?" And I said, "Well I was in Gene's Books in the King of Prussia Mall and I ran across this guy Bob Frissell. Never heard of him but it's an interesting book." And they said, "Okay, you want him? You got him." So I guarantee you at least on my part - Q: (I didn't know I was off the air) Well that's because - R: - and if you get to know me, you'll know I don't lie about this. They didn't coerce me to have anybody. Q: (off air) Right. R: They just told me I had to have someone. I got to pick him though. Q: (off air) But you don't know about my own book because - (it's been covered up) R: So I wish that I could go with your theory that this is some type of a government cover-up but, like I say, when the government starts mailing me checks, I'll let you know. Alright, well our guest is Bob Frissell. Government's been mailing you checks, Bob? B: (no answer) R: I don't think so. Alright, I think Bob's off the payroll too. But we'll continue to take your calls of your own free will. We won't mail you any money but we will pick up the toll. That's about it. You know the 800 numbers. If not, you'll get them again. NOTHING IN THIS BOOK IS TRUE, BUT IT'S EXACTLY HOW THINGS ARE! and SOMETHING IN THIS BOOK IS TRUE are the two books. There's a video. There's an 800 number which we will be giving you again and questions? Oh, we'll tackle anything. As you can tell. On the Art Bell show. Art returns tomorrow. I'm Rollye James in for Art on the Premiere Radio Network. . . . ***JUNE 2/3, 2000 "COAST TO COAST A.M." CALL*** Q: Mark Russell Bell M: Mike Siegel, host M: And we're back with you. Let's go right back to your calls. And they're terrific, let me tell you. We go to the wild card line. You're on "Coast to Coast A.M." Hello. Q: Hi, Mike. M: Good morning. Q: This is Mark in L.A.'s San Fernando Valley. M: Mark, how are you? Q: Very good, thank you. And ("GEL") I believe I do believe I have evidence for time travel. But when I was listening to you talk about ("UM") "A Christmas Carol," I couldn't help but think that that was very similar to what we now call abduction visits. Do you see the parallels between the two? M: You know, could well be. Of course, I've never been abducted--to my knowledge at least-- but those who have, it may well be. ("YY YY" "YOU") You know, that's very possible. They could be taken - you see, the concept of that, Mark, was--in the film, anyway--was that you were going from one time and one space to another time and another space. And the Ghost of Christmas Past was taking Scrooge with him just by his touch - of the ghost. And they went though those plains. They really didn't travel in the way we know an airline travels or (or "OR") - an airplane travels and that sort of thing. They traveled through different plains, very obviously. Q: Yeah, there's a lot of interesting parallels between the paranormal and movies. I also am reminded of "The Wizard of Oz" and Glinda the Good's bubble is very much like those translucent orbs seen near the crop circles. But, anyway, my proof of time travel concerns - I was doing some interviews in this very haunted house in Oklahoma where the family had aliens living with them and other spirit manifestations. I interviewed a young woman named Twyla who basically um - ("TOL[D" "ME") she was a very - she was a rural young lady and not very wise in the ways of the world, I might say. She basically told an event that had happened in this very haunted house. In fact, I have it on tape. If you like, I can play it for you. It's less than a minute. M: Alright, we'll try it. As long as - Q: Okay. M: - the audio's okay. Q: Okay, let me try it. Hold on. M: We can't - we're not allowed to do that. I'm sorry. Q: You're not allowed? Okay, well people can read it at my website actually. Can I give that address? M: Um (or "UM") no - no(t) - can't do that either. We - well, see, because we don't know and I'm sorry - Q: There was someone earlier who gave their address. M: It wasn't their own - it was not their own address. We cannot have people - Q: This is my website. M: I understand but we can't really do that. Q: You did it before. I mean - M: We didn't - NOTE: I SAID THAT I'VE GIVEN OUT THE ADDRESS FOR MY WEBSITE AT TESTAMENT.ORG BEFORE ON THE SHOW BUT THIS COMMENT WAS NOT HEARD ON THE BROADCAST. M: I was told we cannot do it. That's the answer that I was given. And the other website was not the person who called's website. It was a different website entirely but we - because if we got into that, if we did it for one person, think of what the magnitude of the program would be - everybody calling to give out their websites. And we're not here to serve individual websites other than when they serve a purpose for the program. In the call earlier, again, it was for the program and it was not for any individual. Okay we go to the west of the Rockies line. You're on "Coast to Coast A.M." Hello there. . . . ***JULY 17/18, 2000 "COAST TO COAST A.M." CALL*** Q: Mark Russell Bell M: Mike Siegel, host L: Shirley MacLaine, guest M: . . . Wild card line, you're on "Coast to Coast A.M." Hello. Q: Hi, Michael, Shirley. M: Hi. L: Hi. Q: This is Mark in the San Fernando Valley. L: Hi, Mark. Q: And I wanted to ask you - with so much exposure to the world of the rich and famous, maybe you can tell us what you believe is the solution to the biggest mystery and that's how the wealthy can imagine that God wants them to amass great wealth when so many people in the world are starving to death and the environment is being destroyed? ("EL") L: Well it's not - I don't think it's a question of manifesting great wealth, I think it's a question of what do you do with it after you manifest it? And also that this country is - ("I") what is the figure? I think that one-eighth of the world, which we represent, is using - what? Three-quarters of the natural resources? M: It's about that. Yeah, it's an un - 17% goes to the bottom three and a half or four billion people. Something like that. L: Again, we've lost our reason for being, I'm afraid. Q: I think if we each set - try to set a personal example for others, ("HEL") that that can really help. L: Yep, we do. The poor always set the example. The poor are the ones who will give you their shirt off their back. M: Well, of course, the other irony is that if - even in terms of nutrition, if you look at the peasants' diet in China or some of the other diets, the healthiest diets are often times the impoverished diets. L: The Third World countries because they eat an equal amount of carbohydrates and protein and vegetables. M: And they don't have freezers to have this frozen food that isn't really as good for you anyway so they eat fresh. L: Fast food's killing us. M: Well - and we've brought it to the . . . we've brought it to Japan, we've brought it elsewhere where there used to be healthy people. L: Um-huh. M: And when I say we - the Western World. . . . ***JULY 30, 2000 "DREAMLAND" CALL*** Q: Mark Russell Bell W: Whitley Strieber, host B: William S. Donaldson, guest D: Dwight Brumley, guest W: This is Whitley Strieber. It's "Dreamland" and we're back with your phone calls for Master Chief Brumley and Commander Donaldson. . . . Okay, got loads and loads of phone calls for you guys. I'm going to try to take these in order. . . . Okay, let's keep going with the telephones because we got loads of calls stacked up. Let's go to Mark in Los Angeles on the first time caller line. Hi, Mark. Q: Hi, Whitley. W: Mark, you there? Q: Yeah. Hi, Whitley. W: Hi. Q: Hi, Bill and Dwight. D: Hi. Q: It seems like people are conditioned to escape into movie, TV and novel fantasy worlds. ("SO") One hopes that Whitley's anger is not a complacent one. It often seems with so many cover-ups like UFOs and Flight 800, crop circles and all the rest ("THAT") unless, like yourselves, you must've undergone some spiritual change, to speak out in this way ("AND") and show a good precedent, I hope, for your - the other military people. Would you agree to that? D: Well I think my - my initial reaction when I talked to the navy investigator and I talked to the FBI - and then I didn't hear from them ever again, but as I followed their news reports and listened and read, I just figured, "Well the FBI knows what they're doing. The NTSB knows what they're doing and if they need to get back to me to go - have more information, they'll do that." You know, that's their - they're all the experts. But then as time dragged on and on and on, and then a little over a year ago, you know, I started becoming in contact with Commander Donaldson and some others that it became painfully obvious that they were - either were unwilling or unable to get to the truth of what really happened. And somebody needs to hold their feet to the fire. And so it takes people like myself and Commander Donaldson and Tom Stalcup and others to finally stand up and raise the flag and say there's something wrong here. Q: Have you seen the website testament.org, Mark Russell Bell's website that basically provides proof of a shared Superconscious Creator that is testing us? D: No. No. W: Well we - we're not going to get into that tonight. There are other - we'll have other programs where that's going to be a good question but we're closer to the Earth right now. B: Right. We're - W: A lot closer than we'd like to be. B: Yeah, very much into - it's in the metal. I mean the - W: Right. B: - fact is the number two main tank exploded and I testif (line disconnected) NOTE: MY MENTION OF THE TESTAMENT.ORG WEBSITE ADDRESS WAS EDITED OUT OF THE SHOW DURING THE FOLLOWING SATURDAY EVENING REBROADCAST HEARD IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ON KOGO. ***AUGUST 27/28, 2000 "COAST TO COAST AM" CALL*** Q: Mark Russell Bell B: Bill, caller I: Ian Punnett, host M: Mike, caller B: . . . the God part of the brain and even talks ("WH") about why there are atheists like myself. Because it's like a bell curve where on the one hand comparing the two musicians are like a curve that goes up like a - I: Right. (or "RIGHT") B: - bell. I: Well I - these are things I look forward to exploring with him on an upcoming show and I'm sure we'll make the opportunity. And, as you do every time you call, Bill, you prove time and time again that you do not have the God part of the brain. Mark is in Los Angeles on "Coast to Coast A.M." for a half hour of open phones before we get to our guests. Mark? Q: Good evening, Ian. I: An(d) evening to you. Q: In relation to that last call, I might say that well obviously Christ is ("OF") active in all of our lives or we'd all eat at the same restaurant every night - ("OR") be in trouble for that, anyway. ("BUT UM") I was hoping that maybe you could ask your guests tonight if they're familiar with Bel-Marduk or, as he was known in Egyptology, Amun-Ra or Amen-Ra? Apparently, that was the original - I: Right. (or "RIGHT") Q: - resurrection story. I: Right. And actually they do address that. And they get into all of the incarnations, if you will, of that story. And that's why they believe that it was just a matter of time until the Jewish culture of the 1st Century also adopts their own version of it. And that the authors, you know, traced that with images which I believe - I don't know this - I was told we're going to try and get them on the website. So you might even be able to look up some of the idolatry from the ancient Egyptians that kind of speak to this issue as well. Q: What's interesting about that, though, in terms of Bel-Marduk being the first is being his (or "BEING HIS") current reincarnation as described by the testament.org website. Are you familiar with that website? I: No, I'm not. Q: Um - I: I will - I'll be happy to check it out but I'm not familiar with it. Q: Yeah. Basically, Bel-Marduk has been reincarnated as a film publicist. ("AND") I: A film publicist? Q: Right. I: (O)kay. Q: And what he - I: In Los Angeles? Q: That's right. I: (O)kay. Q: City of the Angels. I guess there's an angelic connection there. When he's tried calling some of the other hosts, they, like, disconnected him and cut him off so he has the actual transcripts of his conversations ("ON") online in the New Testament section. I: Alright. Well I will take a look on the website and I promise if he calls I won't hang up. And that is the beauty of open phones as we - Q: (off the air) That's testament.org - I: - never know quite sure where the show's going to go and we'll do it again. Coming up another round on the way before our guests join us coming up on "Coast to Coast A.M." next. My name's Ian Punnett. (commercials commence) NOTE: THIS IS HOW THE FOLLOWING CALLER BEGAN HIS CONVERSATION WITH IAN PUNNETT. M: Yeah, hello. I just have a question for all these atheists who call your show. If I were to show you a brand new Pentium computer with all the extras and whistles and bells and whatever - and I were to tell you that this computer came into existence when a tornado went through a junkyard and the computer just evolved into existence, would you believe that? When you look at this universe, even any facet of this universe, whether the structure of atoms, DNA, the human brain, the cosmos, galaxies - every aspect of this universe is infinitely more complex than what we can build. But yet we're asked to believe that all humans can be accidentally just evolved into existence. NOTE: IAN PUNNETT BEGAN THE SECOND HOUR OF THE SHOW AS FOLLOWS. I: Live from the Butch Foster Memorial Studio where I sit with THE JESUS MYSTERIES: WAS THE ORIGINAL JESUS A PAGAN GOD? By Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy on one knee and my Ask Jeeves Internet searcher on the other. It is that kind of a book - always challenging, never boring. I found myself going through not just material from my own studies towards my Masters in divinity but also spending a lot of time on the Internet in some of the books that I have accumulated in my own library, making sure that I understood exactly what it was that they were getting at. And, of the material that they referenced that had already been part of my experience as graduate student, I say they're spot-on. Whether they come to the right conclusion, I'm going to leave that up to you. It'll be a while before we get to open phones and I ask your patience with this subject and ask you to indulge our guests with your respect in hearing the case they're going to make for the origins of Jesus being so directly tied to Pagan/Gnostic myths, which the authors maintain as was the Gnostic tradition, were never intended to be taken literally. It's all a big misunderstanding according to Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy. We'll let them make their case on what could be my last night on "Coast to Coast" or my last day in the seminary, depending if any of my professors are going to be listening to this show coming up next on "Coast to Coast A.M." My name's Ian Punnett. ***SEPTEMBER 23/24, 2000 "COAST TO COAST A.M." CALL*** Q: Mark Russell Bell B: Barbara Simpson, host B . . . Mark is calling us from L.A. Hello, Mark. Thank you for calling. I'm Barbara. Q: Hi, Bar - B: Mark? Q: Hi. (or "HI") Hi, Barbara. B: Hi. Q: Well my life has brought me smack dab in the middle of a couple more cover-ups. B: Uh-huh. Q: But first I thought I would mention about last night's show with Echo Bodine. Did you hear that? B: I heard part of it. Not the whole thing. Q: Me too. ("BUT") People should go to the archive shows because the spirit messages/EVP phenomena is getting quite noticeable. ("UM") Especially with her. In the middle of her sentences, you can hear very distinct words such as "NO," um "BUT," "AND." I heard some "YOU KNOW"s. B: Really? Q: Mostly "NO"s. Like there was one time when she was talking about 'The Squadron' - about how people ("SH") should call upon 'The Squadron' and there was a very distinct "NO" there. But, anyway, that's something that people can do on their own. B: Okay. Q: But, anyway, I had to quit my job because of a cover-up. B: Um-huh. Q: Another government cover-up. I was working for TeleTech which services clients like the United States post office. And it was sort of a long-term temp position. And I had to quit because my supervisor said I wasn't allowed to give people the correct rates information when they called - ("HE") told me that I had - I couldn't give Special Standard Mail rates unless they specifically used that terminology and very few callers knew that terminology. So this is a new government cover-up to report. I guess they're now hiring temp workers through intermediary companies to get around screwing the public. ("AND" "YOU KNOW") Because, of course, they're supposed to service the public but they're trying to make as much money as they can and - try it yourself. ("TRY") Call up and say "I want to send some books. ("WHAT'S") What's the cheapest rate?" And instead of Special Standard Mail rate, ("THEY") they'll probably just tell you the Parcel Post rate. B: Well I'll tell you, Mark, the problem I think dealing with almost any business is if you don't ask the right question, you're not going to get the answers you're looking for. And frequently you're dealing with people who really don't know their job and that's always a problem. Did you get another job yet? Q: Well I'm starting on Monday. I - of course, after you quit a temp job they won't use you again. So I signed up a new temp agency and I was horrified because there were like twenty different forms I had to fill out. One of them - B: Welcome to the bureaucracy. Q: Well it's worse than you think because one of the things I had to sign - it said 'Do you promise not to divulge any information whatsoever on your job?' and, of course, being a writer, that's something I wasn't willing to sign so I scratched it out. And there was so much paperwork, they didn't even notice that I refused to go along with them on that one. I was also - I think the people who ("EN") en - uh engage in these cover-ups, though - such as this one with the USPS, because when people call and say, "I want the least expensive rate," you should be able to give them the least expensive rate - but they have other cover-ups that get them karmically. For example, here in L.A. there's a show called "Ask Mr. KABC" and he was interviewing Todd Wilbur who's that cookbook author who writes about food chains and recipes. And he had apparently interviewed a chemist who had checked out Kentucky Fried Chicken. And apparently - B: Mark, Mark, you're getting really, really long on this and it's very convoluted. Q: Well don't hang up on me because I'll make the point now. B: Yeah. What's your point? ("WELL") Q: The secret recipe for Kentucky Fried Chicken is MSG which is a powerful drug. ("HOW") B: How do you know it if it's a secret recipe? Q: Because Todd Wilbur, who's a very - ("WHO'S A") nationwide-known cookbook author - B: Ahhh. Q: - he's known for - he's published many different books. And he had it analyzed. Of course, he himself was just talking about it as an allergic reaction. He doesn't know what I know, being a vegan. ("THAT IT") It's a powerful drug reaction and not an allergic reaction. And it destroys brain cells. And there are websites such as nomsg.com in addition to my own (at) testament.org that does go into some of these terrible things. Of course, the show itself has had a lot about - B: Yeah. Q: - Bovine Growth Hormone. ("BUT") B: Well we've done a lot on this program. I know Mike has done a number of programs on that. Listen, I - we've got to take a break but I think you, Mark, for calling and I hope - (line disconnected) NOTE: I LISTENED TO THE REBROADCAST OF THE PROGRAM AND THIS IS HOW MY FINAL TWO SENTENCES WERE HEARD: "AND THERE ARE WEBSITES SUCH AS NO (D)OT ORG THAT DOES GO INTO SOME OF THESE TERRIBLE THINGS." background information http://testament.org/testament/pguild.html photo of burned bushes http://testament.org/testament/c38.html photo of Egyptian pendant http://testament.org/testament/c27.html photo of a spirit http://testament.org/testament/c16.html photo of "aliens" http://testament.org/testament/c19.html photo of a "bigfoot" http://testament.org/testament/c50.html
