On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 00:28:31 -0500 (CDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Mindspring Shuts Down Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum > >July 21--Mindspring/Earthlink has shut down the Waco Holocaust Electronic >Museum without any warning, notice, or explanation. >You can no longer access: >http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum > >Put another way: WE ARE OFF THE AIR! > >My e-mail address <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is now inoperable. >Please use <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to contact me. > >On July 14, I used Deja.com to post "Mindspring Suppresses The News" to >three unmoderated Usenet newsgroups: alt.current >events.clinton.whitewater, alt.censorship,soc.culture.usa. I did NOT use >Mindspring to post this message. Because I did not use Mindspring to >post this message, Mindspring has no even remotely credible excuse to >shut me down. > >"Mindspring Suppresses The News" is attached, below, for your reading >pleasure. The truth was apparently too much for Mindspring. > >Mindspring has thus even more convincingly revealed itself to be part of >the news suppression apparatus world wide. > >I will working to get >http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum >up and running as soon as possible. > >=== > >Mindspring's Political Agenda > >Are you interested in how the second largest ISP in the US is attempting >to suppress political dissent, while boasting to its customers that it >supports free speech? > >Put another way: Is Mindspring (Mindspring/EarthLink) actually concerned >about serving their customers, or does the company operate on a hidden, >political agenda? > >If you are interested in the answers to these questions, go to: > >http://www.public-action.com/pretenders/mdsp1.html > >=== > >Mindspring Suppresses The News > >Carol A. Valentine >Curator, Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum >http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum >Copyright, July 2000 >Published by Public Action, Inc. >May be reproduced for non-commercial purposes > >July 13, 2000--Most of us already know the establishment media lies about >important current events. And many of us know that the so-called >"alternate" news outlets on the Internet -- including the Drudge Report, >Newshawk, Free Republic, WorldNetDaily, etc., also cover up pivotal >issues, while pretending to be muckrakers. > >Usenet newsgroups are our country's last refuge for the truth. >Researchers who publish cutting edge, documented material use these >forums to tell the public of their findings. Thus false reports >circulated in the establishment and fake opposition press outlets are >exposed. Public opinion changes! > >ISPs are a vital link in the Usenet news system. Without the service of >ISPs, the independent researchers would have no way of reaching the >public. > >The good news is that the nation's second largest ISP, Mindspring/ >Earthlink, advertises that it supports free speech and prominently >displays the Free Speech On Line Blue Ribbon Campaign logo on its home >page. [ http://www.mindspring.net ]. The bad news is that Mindspring >does not walk like it talks; despite what it says, Mindspring is covertly >moving to close down free speech on the Usenet forum. > >How is Mindspring doing that? The abuse division of the company is >attempting to censor what certain customers post to these Usenet boards. >I know. I'm a Mindspring customer and it's happened to me. > >* The News Mindspring Is Trying to Suppress * > >Some background: I am Curator of the Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum > >http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum > >and for years have been showing that the US murdered the Davidian mothers >and children with malice aforethought and engineered a cover up with the >active participation of the US media. > >Now, the government's latest attempt to cover up its premeditated murders >is unfolding. In a Texas federal court, a civil "wrongful death" lawsuit >is being played out in which so-called "Davidian survivors," their >lawyers, and the US are together cooperating in an effort to defraud the >US taxpayers, claiming that the victims died through negligence. > >For details, see "Waco Suits for Waco Suckers" at: >http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/burial/page/b_wsws.html >or use this indirect link. >http://www.public-action.com/ > >As the hoax lawsuit is being played out, I have been exposing the fraud >and the fake "alternate" media outlets instrumental in the continued >coverup. On May 28 I wrote an article about the Washington Post >promoting Free Republic. The Post characterized Free Republic as a >"conspiracy" news source for information on Waco. > >Free Republic is one of the fake "alternative" news sources, of course. >You can read my article at: > >http://www.public-action.com/Pretenders/p_WPFR.html > >Naturally I posted the article to alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater >("Whitewater"). The Whitewater newsgroup is THE place to post Clinton >scandal information, for Waco is the worst Clinton scandal of them all. >Do a search of "Waco" on the Whitewater board; some weeks ago I ran such >a search and found that approximately 175 messages a week about Waco are >posted to that forum. > >* Whitewater Deceivers * > >This being the age of universal deceit, it comes as no surprise that >Whitewater is chock-a-block full of poseurs- posters who pretend to be >outraged over Clinton Administration scandals but who are actually trying >to shut down open discussion of same by using a variety of mechanisms. > >One such person is Wayne Mann. Among other things, Mann is a Zionist >zealot. In the past I caught him forging a Usenet message containing a >threat of violence against another poster. (I have the documentation.) > >When irritated by views he cannot stand, it is customary for Mann to >scream invectives such as "Anti-Semite!" or "[Expletive deleted] OFF AND >DIE..." >[ http://x63.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=587691100.13 ] >Mann sometimes abbreviates the latter expression to "FOAD." > >But often Mann writes reports to ISPs, complaining that the ISP's >customer is "off-topic" and posting material unsuited to the subject >matter of the newsgroup. I have seen Mann make groundless complaints >against a number of posters. > >With complaints from the "user community" (people like Wayne Mann), ISPs >like Mindspring can unilaterally cancel their Internet service contracts >and selectively silence those who tell the truth about the major scandals >in this country. > >And that is the game Mindspring News is now playing. Mindspring is >siding with Wayne Mann to prevent me from speaking the truth about Waco >on the Whitewater board. Mindspring does this at the very time the US is >trying hardest to sell its lies about Waco to the public. How convenient >for the government. > >* Chronology * > >May 28, 2000 >I posted "Washington Post Plugs Free Republic in More Ways Than One" >[ http://www.public-action.com/Pretenders/p_WPFR.html ] to the >alt.current.events.clinton.whitewater newsgroup. > >May 30 >I received a note from the mindspring abuse department, saying that I >sent an "off-topic" posting to the Whitewater newsgroup. You can read >the full message here: > >http://www.public-action.com/Pretenders/p_msabuse.html#May_30 > >Here is an excerpt from Mindspring's Appropriate Use Policy on Usenet >postings, which can be found at: > >http://www.mindspring.net/aboutms/policy.html > >"MindSpring customers should use their best judgment when posting to any >newsgroup. Many groups have charters, published guidelines, FAQs, or >"community standards" describing what is and is not considered >appropriate. Usenet can be a valuable resource if used properly. The >continued posting of off-topic articles is prohibited. Commercial >advertisements are off-topic in most newsgroups, especially regional >groups not specifically named for such. The presence of such articles in >a group is not indicative of the group's "intended" use. Please >familiarize yourself with basic USENET netiquette before posting to a >newsgroup." > >Note that, although the Mindspring policy refers to charters, guidelines, >and "community standards," Mindspring did not cite any authority for its >charge that my posting was off topic in their May 30 letter. To this >day, despite my repeated requests, Mindspring has failed to provide a >"standard" or "guideline" for reference. > >In that May 30 warning, Mindspring told that unless I stopped posting >"off-topic" messages, Mindspring might continue to issue warnings and > >* suspend my posting privileges >* suspend or terminate my account >* bill me $200 for administrative costs. > >In addition, this May 30 letter advised me to read the newsgroup "for a >few days and become familiar with its language, tone, style, and >expectations." > >Who lodged the complaint about me for posting "off-topic"? The >complainant was Wayne Mann. (See Mindspring's confirmation of this, >below. >http://www.Public-Action.com/Pretenders/p_msabuse.html#June_1a ) > >May 31 >I wrote a note to the mindspring abuse team telling them why my May 28 >posting to the Whitewater group was not "off-topic." > >http://www.Public-Action.com/Pretenders/p_msabuse.html#May_31 > >June 1 > >Brian Greer of the Mindspring abuse team got back to me, dismissing what >I said. He continued to call my posting "off-topic," but would not cite >the authority on which he relied to come to his decision. Strange >behavior from someone entrusted to make sure the rules are followed. He >"knows" the rules have been violated, but cannot cite those rules. You >can see Greer's response at: > >http://www.Public-Action.com/Pretenders/p_msabuse.html#June_1a > >Note Greer's words " ... our understanding of the *topic* for that >newsgroup is strictly as discussions about the Whitewater ivestments >[sic] investigations, etc., and how they pertain to Bill Clinton ... " > >Dear readers: Do a search on the Whitewater newsgroup and see how many >discussions about the Whitewater investment investigation you can find. >Or download the current Whitewater messages to see what is covered on >that board. > >Remember Mindspring's May 30 advice to me? They told me to read the >Whitewater newsgroup for a few days "and become familiar with its >language, tone, style, and expectations." > >Greer has obviously not followed this advice: His understanding of the * >topic* of that newsgroup is, pragmatically speaking, out to lunch. > >Note also these words from Greer: "Wayne Mann may, or may not, have >ulterior motives for reporting that post. Certainly, if he were a >customer of ours and posting off-topic to the same groups, he would >probably be discussing this same issue with me right now." Shortly we >will see that this is not the case at all--Mindspring applies different >strokes to different folks. > >June 1. >I told Mr. Greer I wished to appeal his decision, and asked him to pass >the matter on to his supervisor. > >http://www.Public-Action.com/Pretenders/p_msabuse.html#June_1b > >June 9 >After not hearing anything for over a week, I wrote to Mary Youngblood, >the abuse team supervisor. > >http://www.Public-Action.com/Pretenders/p_msabuse.html#June_9a > >Note that I DID NOT write an appeal, nor did I discuss the basis for >appeal. I asked her to tell me the correct procedure for appeal. I >also reminded her I wanted to know the authority upon which Mindspring >had come to its decision. > >June 9. >Ms. Youngblood got back to me the same day, with a note saying she had >rejected my "appeal." > >http://www.Public-Action.com/Pretenders/p_msabuse.html#June_9b > >But I had not made an appeal! Not yet! I had merely asked Ms. >Youngblood to describe the appeal procedure. On what possible grounds >did Ms. Youngblood reject an appeal that had not yet been made? > >Again, note that Ms. Youngblood did not cite an authority for her >"decision." >Given her very position is devoted to determining whether customers have >abused Usenet policy, this failure to cite authority after repeated >requests is inexcusable. No, this behavior is not business behavior. > >* Mindspring Abuse Has Ulterior Motives * > >Recall that on June 1, the mindspring abuse team told me that any other >Mindspring customer would be required to adhere to the same rules. ("... >if he [Wayne Mann] were a customer of ours and posting off-topic to the >same groups, he would probably be discussing this same issue with me >right now.") > >http://www.Public-Action.com/Pretenders/p_msabuse.html#June_1a > >I decided to test Mindspring. While Wayne Mann is not a Mindspring >customer, Billy Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, a regular poster to the >Whitewater newsgroup, is a Mindspring customer. Beck has constantly over >the years posted messages which had nothing to do with the financial >investigation of the Whitewater scandal. > >June 8. >Beck posted a message to the Whitewater board, that, according to >Mindspring's definition, was "off-topic." > >June 13, 8:23 am: > >Unbeknownst to Beck, I wrote a complaint to the mindspring abuse >department about that June 8 posting, asking Mindspring to discipline >Beck for posting off topic. > >June 13, 12:21 pm > >Mindspring replied, saying it would take corrective steps to ensure Beck >would post no more "off-topic" messages and assigned a case number to the >problem: 000613-13510278. > >http://www.Public-Action.com/Pretenders/p_msabuse.html#June_13a > >June 13, 5:32 pm > >Billy Beck REPOSTED to the Whitewater group the very message I had >complained about, naming his message "Once Again, With Feeling." > >June 13, 11:06 pm > >I wrote another complaint to Mindspring about Billy Beck. I complained >anew about the June 8/June 13 posting, and several others posted on June >13. > >One of Beck's postings was a response to a thread entitled "Separation of >Toilet Companies Next!" surely off topic on the Whitewater newsgroup, >according to Mindspring standards. Remember, Mindspring says a message >is "off-topic" if it does not deal with "Whitewater ivestments [sic], >investigations, etc., and how they pertain to Bill Clinton." > >I did a preliminary check on deja.com's search engine: Since September >23, 1999, Beck posted 1,900 messages to the Whitewater board. I did a >search of the word "Whitewater" on these messages, and could not find one >message that related to the Whitewater investigation. I advised >Mindspring of this. > >http://www.Public-Action.com/Pretenders/p_msabuse.html#June_13b > >June 13 >I started a thread on the Whitewater and alt.censorship newsgroups >entitled: "Mindspring.com Sets Agenda For Whitewater Board." > >June 15. > >Beck continued to post "off-topic" messages, including one about >aeroplane engines. I complained to mindspring, referring them to the >standards they applied to me. > >http://www.Public-Action.com/Pretenders/p_msabuse.html#June_15a > >June 15. > >In the thread "Mindspring.com Sets Agenda for Whitewater Board," Beck >says this of Mindspring: > >"I had my own episode with Mindspring recently, and had to drill out some >facts of life around here." > >http://www.Public-Action.com/Pretenders/p_msabuse.html#June_15b > >June 16. > >Beck continued to post "off-topic" messages. Topics include a man >rescued for a portable toilet, a Black Panther protest of an upcoming >Texas execution, the next presidential election, and Los Alamos nuclear >secrets. I lodged another complaint, reminding Mindspring of the >standards they applied to me. > >June 17. > >Beck continued to post "off-topic" messages concerning "Weak sister Billy >Beck begs for help," and "Hey, Gail, is Lochner one of yours? Please >respond." These messages were unrelated to the Whitewater investigation, >and I complained to mindspring. > >June 18. > >Beck continued to post "off-topic" messages, including those concerning >the Vietnam war and the beneficial effects of the free market. I >complained to Mindspring. > >June 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24 > >Beck continued to post "off-topic" messages. So far I had complained >about dozens of such messages ... but there was no change in Beck's >behavior. What of the suspension of posting privileges, termination of >account, and the $200 fine Mindspring threatened to impose on me? Billy >Beck has apparently not been touched. > >June 25. > >Beck posts message on "Mindspring.com Sets Agenda for Whitewater Board," >thread in which Beck, speaking of the censorship imposed on me, says: > >"[Expletive deleted] 'em [Carol Valentine et. al.]. Let 'em holler. >They oughta have their [expletive deleted] kneecaps broken." > >(I have captured the entire message, with full headers.) > >http://www.Public-Action.com/Pretenders/p_msabuse.html#June_25 > >June 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, July 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11. > >Beck continued to post "off-topic" and I continued to complain. But >there was no change in Beck's choice of topics on the Whitewater board. >I last received a message from Mindspring on Beck's case [ 000613- >13510278 ] on June 13. Since then, Mindspring has been silent. Even the >automatic replies from [EMAIL PROTECTED] have stopped, indicating they >are now filtering out my messages. > >Do you suppose Billy Beck really "[drilled] out some facts of life around >here" with Mindspring, as he claimed? > >http://www.Public-Action.com/Pretenders/p_msabuse.html#June_15b > >* What This Means To You * > >The consumer must make a judgement about the businesses with which he or >she deals. Does the business represent itself truthfully in its >promotion? Does it fulfill its contractual obligations with its >customers? > >Take a look at what Mindspring did in this case, and then come to your >own opinion about Mindspring. What do you think of an ISP who behaves in >such a manner? > >It has been suggested that if I find Mindspring unsatisfactory, I should >change ISPs. My response is "no way." Mindspring's web service is fair >enough. Mindspring technical people are polite and try to help you out >if you have a problem. The ONLY real problem I have had with Mindspring >comes from its abuse department. And jumping from one ISP to another, >finding out whether they will live up to their agreements, is unworkable. > >Besides, when the nation's second largest ISP tries to stifle free speech >on Usenet I want the whole world to know about it. I won't be going to >another ISP, not on your life. I will stay right here and complain loud >and long ... > >A copy of this message is being sent to Mary Youngblood, supervisor of >Mindspring's abuse department, and Charles Brewer, founder and CEO of >Mindspring and now chairman of the new EarthLink. This is a challenge to >them: > >I will resume posting to the Whitewater board messages concerning the >scandals of the Clinton Administration, and the attempts to cover up such >scandals. Shut me down, and the world will know. Make my day. > >=== > >Carol A. Valentine >President, Public Action, Inc. > >Have you seen the Waco Holocaust Electronic Museum? >See what they did to the Gentile mothers and children-- >http://www.Public-Action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum > >If those mothers and children had been Jewish, do you think their >murderers would still be on the government payroll? > >Do you think Esquire magazine would have run this cartoon had the victims >been Jewish? >http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/burial/fig/b_fig01.html > >"In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary >act." -- George Orwell > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy. > > *** NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. 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