At 08:05 PM 23, 05, , 2000 +0100, you wrote: >Andrew > >I think the really interesting, or frightening thing about this topic is not >how it affects apes but how it affects us. > I think maybe the caste system idea of untermensche and uber-chappies is not really the only issue. The issue [imo] is who says whats human and who says whats non-human. Initially there was the social implementation of cloning - and now we have cloning for human and other organ parts sanctioned eg. in UK but scary as these issues appear - I think that we have seen nothing yet. What will stop the multinational corporations who control the patents for human genomes from creating an entirely new species. eg. you could have 98.4% human DNA, but give the person a genetically engineered pair of gills and other gas tolerances - and you could have an entirely new species capable of working in and farming the ocean - after all it covers 2 thirds of the earths surface. The PR argument would then be that this amphibian is more human than an APE Suppose that the pandoras box of Genetic Engineering is going to be opened with the ruthless pursuit of profit in mind - and that the next generations of mankind are under the control of the population factories a la aldous huxley. Then not only would we have a genetic caste system where perfectly engineered humans have a great time [gattaca] but; the remaining bulk of the human race would have any predisposition to anything other than manual labour engineered out of it - such that the persom will be switched off at night remotely by chip - The notion of downloading programmes, instructions from a central factory computer is approaching public realism through the published advances in neurone and silicon integration. Who would need the argumentative, messy, imperfect human race when a programmable cyborg that can upload and implement instructions on a regular basis is more desirable. In order to head off this potentially Frankenstein debate - I suspect that if such were to be profitably implemented - one would need much more in a court of law or human rights than the mans a basic ape spin. I predict that within the next 5 years there will be a gene/sequence identified that will be alleged to be responsible for intelligence and civilisation. and on that basis - any Eugenics programme will have a solid foundation in law. andrew hennessey <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html <A HREF="http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
