-Caveat Lector- INTELLIGENT DESIGN - a dead end with CHAOS THEORY & LUCIFER What this movement is going to do [imo] is Use 'Intelligent Design' as proof that there is a creator, then someone is going to do a chaos and emergence experiment eg. see www.santafe.edu to prove that design emerges from fractal components and that there is No Gods will - only mechanistic processes and having got there - they will then say that God is in the electricity of the cosmos and that electricity is Lucifer and that we all belong to Lucifer etc This argument tricks us into believing our Souls are not independently ours and eternal, but Lucifers The scam is actually quite complex to follow - but hinges on the simple fact that people need material proof of God. It is calculated to deceive however because material systems organise into ordered looking niches quite easily - a fact known to the illuminati AND the chaos scientists - 'order emerges out of chaos is the 33 degree masonic motto' and a fact found in Hindu sanskrit circa 10,000BC something 99.9% of the worlds population just do not know - Why ?? because they only teach the real science of the cosmos in Illuminati schools the science of chaos theory and complexity and emergence will be used to destroy the Intelligent Design argument and cause dismay - because the Christians that want to ditch darwin may pin their flag to the Intelligent Design school of thought. Check out Richard Milton - there are tonnes of refutations of darwin check out Dr Brian Goodwin - Darwin is blown away by Chinese fossils - AND no missing link was ever discovered or the millions of 'transitional states' So Christians should stay away from the Intelligent Design argument - it leads down the slippery slope to chaos theory and nature red in tooth and claw - Intelligent Design is not an argument for the Soul - It is an argument FOR LUCIFER The One God gave us the freedom to play in this garden of matter but we are eternal souls that last forever - unlike the material systems that are infested by Lucifer. Yes God created All - but beware of the Pit of Chaos Theory it will be used to blindfold us to our true heritage and identity andrew hennessey > Life's intelligent design > Author of 'Darwin on Trial' sees a win > > May 07, 01 > > Steve Maynard; The News Tribune > http://search.tribnet.com/archive/archive30/0507s11.html > > > Phillip Johnson began his talk on intelligent design at Pacific Lutheran > University with a sort of victory cry. > > Ten years ago, Johnson wrote a book called "Darwin on Trial" that disputed > Darwinian evolution and launched a movement. Johnson, a professor emeritus > of law at University of California at Berkeley, and other academics produced > the concept of intelligent design. They assert the complexities of the Earth > must be the work of a designer. > > Johnson had good reason to be buoyant last month at PLU. Recent front-page > stories in The New York Times and Los Angeles Times describe intelligent > design as a credible foe of evolution. > > "Our enemies may not like us, but they know that we're getting ahead, that > we're winning the argument," Johnson told 400 people in a packed lecture > room. > > However, most scientists disagree. > > "Their ideas have been looked at by the scientific community and nobody's > convinced they've got anything scientifically useful," said Eugenie Scott, > executive director of the National Center for Science Education in Oakland, > Calif. "I would say it's distinctly premature to say he's winning any kind > of argument." The center is a nonprofit organization that advocates for the > teaching of evolution. > > In Tacoma and Seattle people have flocked to hear Johnson, the father of > intelligent design. A crowd of more than 700 overflowed Kane Hall at the > University of Washington last month to hear him. > > He offered an approach more intellectually intricate than that of biblical > creationists, who assert the Earth is only 6,000 to 8,000 years old and was > created in six days. Johnson said during an interview that he accepts the > age of the Earth as 4.6 billion years but that's not the real issue. Nor is > the issue how one feels about the Genesis account of creation, said Johnson, > 60, an evangelical Christian. Speaking in his rapid-fire style, Johnson > asserted that the issue is evolution and how it is based on the philosophy > of naturalism. > > Biologists say that "science simply assumes that there is not and can be no > designer," Johnson said. "It's not a matter of evidence; it's a matter of > assumption. You begin to see why a lawyer took this up. > > "Intelligent design is the proposition that you need a source of > intelligence in order to account for the wonders of biology. You do not see > the designer directly, of course. What you see (are) the effects of design." > > Johnson is anything but a lone ranger in his battle. The research of two > other so-called fathers of the intelligent design movement - Michael Behe > and William Dembski - is funded by a nonprofit Seattle-based group called > the Discovery Institute, for which Johnson is an adviser. > > Behe, a professor of biological sciences at Lehigh University in > Pennsylvania and the author of "Darwin's Black Box," argues that the > "irreducible complexity" of biological structures points to a designer. > > Dembski is a mathematician, philosopher and research professor at Baylor > University in Texas. He developed a mathematical "explanatory filter" which > he maintains can distinguish randomness from complexity originating from an > intelligent designer. > > Another researcher funded by the institute is biologist Jonathan Wells of > Poulsbo, who wrote about mistakes in biology textbooks in his book "Icons of > Evolution: Science or Myth?" > > The debate over evolution derives from the ideas of Charles Darwin as > written in "Origin of Species" in 1859. Darwinism and evolution teach that > humans were not the product of miraculous intervention but evolved from > apelike creatures. In Darwinism, the main cause of change is the process of > natural selection, which holds that the best reproducers and adapters are > most likely to survive. > > Scott said intelligent design proponents argue that different species - such > as insects and mollusks - couldn't be derived from one another or common > ancestors. > > "They say you can't get from one to another with the process of natural > selection," Scott said. "Scientifically, there's no reason why you > couldn't." > > Johnson says species can and do adapt within a narrow range - for example, > mosquitoes become genetically resistant to the chemical DDT. Supporters call > this process "microevolution" or as Johnson prefers "adaptive variation." > But, Johnson said, organisms contain structures that are "irreducibly > complex." > > He outlined the options of evolution and intelligent design: > > * "If you look at the evidence without bias, does it tend to support the > view that nature can do the job on its own? There's no need for a creator or > designer because nature's fully competent to do all the creating by the > mechanisms of random variation and natural selection." > > * "Or, is it in fact the case that the scientific evidence considered > without bias shows you that natural selection has no real creative power, > that organisms are chock full of structures which are irreducibly complex > and hence can't be built up step by step by a mindless process because you'd > have to have all the parts at once for any one of them to do anything?" This > is the position the evidence supports, Johnson said. > > In Darwin's day, the cell was believed to be a "blob of jelly," Johnson > said. Instead, the cell "is actually a miniature city, of immense complexity > with a billion or so proteins doing all kinds of complex jobs," he said. > "This requires the presence of some program which is coordinating all these > activities. And that would be more complex than the program that runs your > word processor." > > And there lies the kind of evidence for intelligent design, he said. > > Johnson said he and most others in the intelligent design movement believe > the designer is the God of the Bible. > > However, a University of Washington psychology professor said intelligent > design proponents are only rehashing the old arguments of biblical > literalists. > > "As far as I can tell, it's an effort to dress up the old Creationist > argument in what appears to be new clothes," said David Barash, an > evolutionary psychologist who has a doctorate in zoology. "But in fact, it's > the same old clothes. Intelligent design implies an intelligent designer, > and that's God." > > Barash said genetic diversity and natural selection explain the non-random > complexity of the biological world. > > "They're desperate to look for some kind of supernatural, divine specialness > in human beings," he said. "Having been unable to demonstrate it, they cloak > it in the mantle that appears to be science. But it has nothing to do with > real science." > > But PLU biology junior Daniel Lloyd said Johnson's lecture confirmed his > belief in God. > > "I liked it," said Lloyd, 26. "He gave a logical approach to explaining the > infinite complexity of life and led us to understand that could not happen > by chance, which traditional biology teaches." > > - - - > > * Staff writer Steve Maynard covers religion, ethics and values. Reach him > at 253-597-8647 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - - - > > SIDEBAR: For more information about intelligent design and evolution, check > out these Web sites > > * www.discovery.org/crsc (Discovery Institute). > > * www.natcenscied.org (National Center for Science Education). > > * www.arn.org (Access Research Network). > > Some teachers talk of alternatives to evolution theory > > May 07, 01 > > Debbie Cafazzo ; Staff writer Steve Maynard contributed to this report; The > News Tribune > > > > In the heat of a Tennessee July, spectators and reporters packed a > sweltering small-town courtroom to watch the trial of a public school > biology teacher. The charge: assigning students to read about the work of > 19th-century evolutionist Charles Darwin. > > The year was 1925. The teacher: John Scopes. And the trial, which pitted the > rhetoric of defense attorney Clarence Darrow against that of prosecutor > William Jennings Bryan, would enter the history books as the Scopes Monkey > Trial. > > Scopes was convicted and fined for violating a Tennessee state law against > the teaching of evolution. But the trial, which was widely and sensationally > reported, turned out to be a victory for the idea that people and apes are > biological kissing cousins. It drew public attention to Darwin's theory > about the origins of life on Earth: that all living organisms evolved from a > common ancestor through a process known as natural selection. > > Over the years, Darwin's ideas became the accepted norm in the scientific > community. High school textbooks today, when they mention evolution, > generally stick to the Darwinian version of events. > > And - in a situation that could be construed as Scopes in reverse - today > teachers who question Darwin can find themselves under fire. > > Roger DeHart, who teaches high school biology in the Burlington-Edison > School District in Skagit County, has become a symbol for the idea that high > school students ought to be exposed to something in addition to Darwin. That > something, in the view of DeHart and others, is a proposition known as > intelligent design. > > Intelligent design postulates that life is not the consequence of events as > explained by Darwin. Rather, it is the work of an intelligent designer. > Intelligent design proponents stop short of calling the intelligent designer > God - at least when they're talking in a public school classroom. > > But they say life is far too complex to have evolved without help. > > "I have always taught evolution," said DeHart, who's been on the faculty of > Burlington-Edison High School for 14 years. "That has never been a question > for me." > > About 10 years ago, he began presenting intelligent design materials in his > classroom, including excerpts from a pro-intelligent design textbook titled > "Of Pandas and People." > > "I never thought it was illegal, or that I was doing it behind anybody's > back," DeHart said. "I never dreamed I'd be on the front of a national > newspaper." > > What propelled DeHart onto the pages of the Los Angeles Times, among other > publications, is the fact that in 1997, one of DeHart's students and the > student's parents enlisted the help of the Washington chapter of the > American Civil Liberties Union. The student and the ACLU asserted that > teaching intelligent design - even without an explicit mention of God - is > tantamount to teaching religion. They say intelligent design is not grounded > in sound science but is the equivalent of teaching creationism, something > the U.S. Supreme Court has already said has no place in science class. > > "What happens is that it (creationism) keeps getting renamed by its > adherents," said Doug Honig, public education director for the Washington > state ACLU. "They are basically disguising it because of the court > decisions." > > DeHart's school district eventually told him to stop what he was doing and > required him to submit materials he planned to use in his class to a > committee. So far, the committee has turned down DeHart's requests to bring > supplemental materials into class. > > "It's gotten to the point where they don't want anything else but the > textbook," DeHart said. "I'm having to script out my lessons. I'm being > ordered to teach the text and nothing else." > > "Our status has been unchanged for two years now," said Burlington-Edison > Schools Superintendent Rick Jones. "We are going to teach science in our > classrooms." > > The ACLU hasn't filed a lawsuit against the district or DeHart, preferring > to resolve the situation outside the courtroom. Instead, the battle has been > waged in the court of public opinion and public pressure. > > The argument has divided the small community. In 1999, a group calling > itself the Burlington-Edison Committee for Science Education took out an ad > in the local newspaper, the Skagit Valley Herald, asking that the school > board put a halt to the teaching of intelligent design. Both DeHart's > supporters and detractors have filled the Herald's columns with letters to > the editor. > > The Seattle-based Discovery Institute, which funds intelligent design > research, thinks DeHart is right. > > "We're behind him," said Mark Edwards, a spokesman for the institute's > Center for the Renewal of Science and Culture. "Our view is that teachers > should have the freedom to discuss these controversies if they want to. It's > an issue of academic freedom." > > The ACLU's Honig says that "violating the separation of church and state is > not a matter of academic freedom." > > DeHart may be the best-known Washington state teacher to have brought up > intelligent design in class. But he's not alone. > > In University Place, Curtis High School teacher Doug Cowan has been helping > students explore the concept in his sophomore biology class for about nine > years. > > Cowan said he's never received a complaint about class content. University > Place Schools Superintendent Patti Banks confirms that. She calls Cowan, who > also coaches football and wrestling, "one of our most respected and beloved > teachers." > > "No one has called me," Banks said. "Nothing has come to the attention of > the high school principal. I guess that says to me that Mr. Cowan is > maintaining an appropriate line. He is a highly ethical person who would put > a lot of pressure on himself to fulfill his obligations as a public school > teacher to not proselytize." > > Cowan says his approach is completely secular: "I want to give kids a > balanced view, to tell them that there are different ways of interpreting > the same data." > > But he doesn't want students to know which side he's on. Instead, Cowan > said, students should learn there is controversy in science, and that > Darwinian evolution is part of it. > > Like DeHart, Cowan considers himself a Christian. But like DeHart, he said > he also covers evolution by the book, as is required by Washington state's > recently adopted academic standards. Those standards mandate that students > learn biological evolution, including how fossil records show patterns of > change in organisms over time, how biological evolution accounts for species > diversity, adaptation, natural selection and other concepts. A study > released last fall by the Fordham Foundation rated every state's standards > for how well they treat the subject of evolution from a scientific point of > view; Washington state earned a grade of B. > > David Kennedy, the director of science education for the state > superintendent of public instruction, said the consensus of science > educators is that intelligent design isn't science. > > "We don't object if it's taught in a social studies class," he said. "But if > it's in science, they're testing the system." > > Still, he acknowledges the state has little in the way of authority when it > comes to disciplining science teachers who stray. > > If a student asks Cowan whether God is the intelligent designer, Cowan tells > them they need to interpret the evidence on their own or discuss the matter > outside of class. > > "Kids may come in with their own presupposition of what their church has > taught them or that they don't care about it," Cowan said. "I say let's look > at the evidence for and against the naturalistic (Darwinian) approach versus > intelligent design." > > Eugenie Scott, director of the National Center for Science Education in > Oakland, Calif., has followed the intelligent design debate. > > "The intelligent design approach is much trickier," she said, comparing it > to creation science. "They really do try very, very hard to not be specific > about God." > > Still, she calls intelligent design the "wink, wink, nudge, nudge school of > science education. We know what they're saying is God." > > She said intelligent design boils down to saying that evolution didn't > happen. And that point of view, she said, is not the consensus among > scientists but is a theological argument. > > Even though Cowan said he's received support from students over the years > for teaching about intelligent design, he is aware that by agreeing to speak > publicly, he's likely to draw attention to himself and his teaching. > > "I'll probably be under attack by the ACLU, too," he said. "But that's the > nature of science. It's always controversial." > http://search.tribnet.com/archive/archive30/0507s12.html > - - - > > * Staff writer Debbie Cafazzo covers children, families and relationships. > Reach her at 253-597-8635 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Staff writer Steve Maynard contributed to this report. > > > © The News Tribune > > > > > > > Armageddon or New Age? Daily Magazine. > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/armageddon-or-newage > To unsubscribe send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! 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