-Caveat Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"> </A> -Cui Bono?- I wander if a "MAN" like Livingstone Fagan would pray in a church founded on the Sabbath? I wonder if ANY Christian would! I wouldn't! Would you? That is the type of church Clive Doyle and fiends founded on Saturday Sabbath September 18, 1999 and are building each and every Sunday, which is the Sabbath to most Christians in this world. This Abomination is being built on the very ground where the blood of Fagan's family was shed by The Bill Clinton Murderers the Children of Waco! What more *EVIDENCE* do we need to know that Clive Doyle is an agent of falsehood? If the laws of God mean nothing to you then a great deal more is needed so that you can stay asleep. Christians need no more than what is before us! Wake up and hear the alarm of "The Watchman". We are in the 70 week prophesy! There will soon be an Earth Quake here in Waco! Andrew "The Watchman" Livingstone Fagan / Mar-09-00 13:50 Thrown to the Lions It has been brought to my attention that a "statement" I made in a deposition early February has caused a stir. It concerned something I did after members of my community were fired upon and killed in the assault against us, February 28th 1993, by agents of the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms. My statement made clear that I, after being fired upon myself, I likewise responded in an act of self-defense. I believe this was unavoidable given the position we were placed in. On the face of it, my making this statement might to some seem foolish! Indeed I myself felt a great degree of reluctance when the Spirit moved me to speak concerning it as the deposition itself showed. Nevertheless, I could not resist The Spirit that hitherto had guided us as a community. Perhaps I should say something about her. We refer to her as Wisdom. In the Hebrew she is known as Shekinah the Spirit of God. She's referred to as the Spirit of Truth. She is further known to those of our community as the heavenly mother. The female side of the Godhead. Proverbs 8 speaks expressly concerning her. Versus 22-56 highlights her nature and origin with God from everlasting at Mt. Carmel we became intimately connected with her to the point we were perceptive of her nuances by which we were made able to perceive the meanings and truth of the scriptures. This was particularly in regard to the matters concerning the book sealed with Seven Seals spoken of in the book of Revelation. Without her we would not be who we are. Being led by her we are not always cognitive of the end design of her leading. Nevertheless, over time we had come to trust her. Walking by faith with her in a relationship of mutual trust. There were times the prospects of following her lead seemed not to our immediate liking and we sometimes resisted. This was true of David Koresh too through whom she had brought much truth to our attention. Nevertheless, we know in our hearts the righteousness of her counsel and came to trust her though sometimes hesitantly. In a way it was like when as a child your mother asked of you something not to your liking. You end up complying though not cheerily. Proverbs 1:20-33 again captures something of her personage. She is known to us- a very real presence. Christ made reference to her in her context as Wisdom and her children in Mt, 11:16-19, note verse 19. Growing to know and trust her guidance was something that happened over time and experiences with her. She became our law and governance, known to us as the Law of the Spirit. How does all of this relate to the matters at hand? Well, it was by her that the Mt. Carmel Community came into being. It was by her that David Koresh was made able to reveal the book seal sealed with Seven Seals. It was via her workings we sought to prevent what eventually occurred on February 28th through April 19th 1993. When this effort failed it was by her we were able to mount a defense. During the negotiations it was by her that David was directed. By her he was informed of God to "wait" and subsequently to write down the matters he did in the closing days before he was killed. In the aftermath and up to today we have continued to trust her lead. It was by her I was prompted to make the statement in the deposition reluctant though I was on account of my distrust of the system. It is by her that I now write this paper. What started the stir was a news article containing my statement written by Dick J Reavis, a journalist with The San Antonio Express News. In his article he draws attention to certain matters that have a bearing on the credibility of the government and its system of "justice". In effect, he shows it not to be true, but in fact a lie posing as truth. You will appreciate that in my deposition my statement was accepted unequivocally as being true. Ms. Hagen and those present did not believe for one instance that it was otherwise. And rightly so, because it was spoken in the Spirit of Truth. My own attorney, Kirk Lyons, in a statement in the article showed unquestioning acceptance of the truthfulness of my statement expressing his "surprise" while excusing me of being "... a little stir-crazy." for making it on account of my being held in solitary conditions so long. Hmmmm! I dare say despite his good intentions, I don't recall employing him as my psychologist. Neither do I recall my having any such sessions with him. Nevertheless, continuing this discussion of the government and its "system of law and justice", in light of my statement Reavis' article refocused on the trial of myself and my colleagues back in 1994. In so doing, he draws attention to the judges, the prosecution and the A.T.F. The prosecution had concocted this wild story about our "conspiring" to murder federal agents. The A.T.F officers added a sub-plot incorporating myself, for which at least one of them testified dramatically and unequivocally, in spite of evidence to the contrary, of the position in which they placed me in this sub-plot. The judge too, Walter Smith Jr., showed in his sentencing statement that he had likewise gone along with this concoction unequivocally. On one occasion during the trial I distinctly watched as he gave the thumbs down in the fashion of the Roman emperors at the Coliseum as one of the lawyers sought to confront him about a problem in the proceedings. Nevertheless, they all choose to believe what now turns out to be a lie. It was expedient for them to do so. They knew what they were doing. The only way that can be true is that the statement I made and reported in Reavis' article be accounted a lie. They are caught in their own deceit. Significantly, those of you who recall the dynamics of the trial know, we were prosecuted on the grounds of "conspiring" to murder federal agents. It was made to appear as if somehow we went out and attacked them while they defended themselves rather than the other way around. My colleagues and I were given counts supposedly according to our roles in this alleged "conspiracy". It was clear to us that the government had not proved its case. How could it? There was no "conspiracy". That being so we had no need to take the stand. We were later proved right by the jury's rejection of the "conspiracy". What we did not know about however, was that additional charges of "manslaughter". It appeared from no where. We were neither arraigned for it, for our part. The trial was not conducted with it in mind; nor did we know about it until the jury came back with its verdict. And this, after we had instructed our attorneys not to change the indictment. Upon reflection it would appear we were judged guilty from the start by instructing the jury with the choice of conviction for "conspiracy" or the seemingly lesser charge of "manslaughter". For which we later learned the jury thought we'd be given time served not to mention declaring that the wrong people were on trial. We were presumed guilty. In truth, the jury should also have been instructed on self-defense. Making it formally possible for us to be acquitted all together. Thus the trial would not have been fixed. It seems this was not to be. The government needed a scapegoat to avert the fallout for its stupidity. Had they not secured an apparent conviction- by any means necessary- the consequences are obvious. And so, we were thrown to the lions. To this day for the life of me I cannot figure out what crime we were supposedly committing for them to mount such an attack in the first place. Our being convicted for "manslaughter" has no bearing on anything we were doing to justify such an attack. The "manslaughter" resulted on account of the attack. Further, it was by their initiation. Why are we held accountable? Do we not have the right to defend ourselves when our lives are recklessly endangered? In accord of the Laws of the Spirit this is a moral imperative. Further, she empowers us to do so. For the "government" to deny us this right of our nature is an affront against our status as whole persons. Especially as the "government" is an impersonal entity in truth, the unscrupulous, shielded by the institution of "government", seek to rob us not only of our labor, but also seek to secure themselves by robbing us of our soul and spirit as well. That way we are not able to perceive their iniquity, let alone do anything about it. When we refuse to yield, we are unceremoniously murdered, while they use the same instructions of "government" to cover themselves. The scriptures were quite poignant in its comments that" the law kills." The government seeking to monopolize the land to itself. The implications are chilling for those not found to it's liking. I am reminded of George Dix, the University of Texas "professor of Criminal Law," and his comment in Reavis' article. By what authority does he speak? From whence is the Spirit by which he is directed? We are unafraid of them neither are we fooled by their use of their system of law and government to effect their evil intent. There is yet more, much more startling revelations to come to the shame and embarrassment of this government in its subterfuge. Psalms 2:4,5. 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