-Caveat Lector- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 20:37:26 -0800 From: Russ Kick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Konformist: Bush Writes Off Congress, Takes Reins in War
------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Promise to Quit Nicotrol will help http://us.click.yahoo.com/5vN8tD/AqSDAA/ySSFAA/zgSolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> LA Times, 10 Dec 2001 Bush Writes Off Congress, Takes Reins in War By DAVID G. SAVAGE WASHINGTON -- The message from the Senate Democrats to the Bush White House last week was: Let's be partners in the war against terrorism. "That's how the founders and our Constitution intended it. Under our system, none of us has a monopoly on authority," Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) told Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft. The American people will have greater confidence if the rules for this new war are "undertaken by partners in our country's effort against a common and terrible enemy," said Leahy, the Democrats' point man. The Bush team responded with a clear but polite "No, thank you." "The constitutional founders didn't expect us to have a war conducted by committee," Ashcroft told his former Judiciary Committee colleagues. "The Constitution vests the president with the extraordinary and sole authority, as commander in chief, to lead our nation in times of war." The back-and-forth exchange at a committee hearing Thursday illustrated the growing power struggle playing out in Washington over a war whose boundaries are yet to be drawn. No one has questioned the president's authority to send U.S. troops into battle in Afghanistan. But controversy has arisen over a series of orders issued by President Bush and his attorney general that expand the government's power to fight terrorism at home--from detaining hundreds of foreigners to holding military tribunals to prosecute noncitizens. Truman's Action in 1952 Was Overruled On the question of presidential authority, the Republicans' favorite role model is Democratic President Franklin D. Roosevelt. During World War II, Roosevelt ordered the detention of Japanese Americans on the West Coast and a secret military trial for eight Nazi saboteurs who had landed on the Atlantic beaches. The wartime experience of FDR's successor, however, and the legal precedent it set for a foreign-domestic delineation of presidential power, is often forgotten. In 1952, with U.S. troops fighting in Korea, President Harry S. Truman seized control of the nation's steel mills when unions went on strike and ordered military troops to keep the mills operating. The president cited his powers as commander in chief, but the Supreme Court ruled he had gone too far. Justice Robert H. Jackson, who had served under FDR, said the president's wartime power is limited on the home front, especially when he acts on his own. Truman had not asked for congressional approval before seizing the mills. .... This fall, when the White House took up the idea of military trials, the president and his advisors did not even bother to tell members of Congress, let alone ask for their approval or input. In this instance, the president's conservative lawyers, who usually are devoted to the Constitution's "original meaning," are believers in the evolving Constitution.... full article is at <www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-000098051dec10.story?coll=la%2Dnews%2Da%5Fsection> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html <A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
