Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation (Rant)

1999-09-20 Thread Tatman, Robert
ED]] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 11:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation (Rant) -Caveat Lector- snip Hell, let's be thorough and go all the way back to the first High Civilization in SUMER -- which is also where Buckminster Fuller's analysis of ou

Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation [rant]

1999-09-19 Thread Sean McDougal
-Caveat Lector- Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. the situation is now the individual vs the State. and is being carried by events. .. I must disagree. The "state" keeps us subservient by making

Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation (Rant)

1999-09-19 Thread Bill
-Caveat Lector- Our Roman Heritage. Linda Minor wrote: Since I'm not nearly as articulate or poetic as Goat, I'd just like to post the following excerpt from an article one of LaRouche's associates wrote about his research into how the oligarchy of Venice controlled the destiny of the

Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation (Rant)

1999-09-19 Thread Sno0wl
-Caveat Lector- Sorry if this is sort of a riff off your rant, Goat, but I do get your point. I have just had two rather odd experiences. 1.The advent of Floyd in upstate New York turned off the power in my very local upstate NY neighborhood for almost 24 hours. (Not the whole town but the

Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation [rant]

1999-09-18 Thread Das GOAT
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-09-13 18:43:50 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Revolution with guns is self defeating, they would just love that. A recipe for self destruction. This is 1999 not 1799. Agreed. But remember, for Russians, 1909 to 1917 wasn't 1709 to 1717 EITHER ... Nor

[CTRL] SWAT Nation [rant]

1999-09-18 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Whew! In general I agree...but some comments. l. Too late for rational solution, yes. What I am concerned about is a bunch of irrational hotheads fomented by "agents provocateurs" kicking off a self defeating fight against the State. Let events unfold naturally. 2.

Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation [rant]

1999-09-18 Thread Das GOAT
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-09-18 10:35:36 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: l. Too late for rational solution, yes. What I am concerned about is a bunch of irrational hotheads fomented by "agents provocateurs" kicking off a self defeating fight against the State. Let events unfold

Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation (Rant)

1999-09-18 Thread Linda Minor
-Caveat Lector- Das Goat wrote: BTW, when in history has a ruling oligarchy ever "let events unfold naturally"? LOL 2. the situation is now the individual vs the State and is being carried by events We are essentially observers.to the tide of future history. The best we can hope for, IMHO,

Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation (Rant)

1999-09-18 Thread Das GOAT
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-09-18 22:55:04 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd just like to post the following excerpt from an article one of LaRouche's associates wrote about his research into how the oligarchy of Venice controlled the destiny of the age in which it lived, and has

Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation

1999-09-13 Thread Ric Carter
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Tatman, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] And which segment of the populace will rise first--will it be the ghettos, whose inmates can be easily identified and isolated...or the suburbs? It does not pay to underestimate middle-class rage. The two

Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation

1999-09-13 Thread ASu2431426
-Caveat Lector- Agreed.Revolution with guns is self defeating, they would just love that. A recipe for self destruction. This is 1999 not 1799. Use the dialectic against itself. Both sides are corrupt. Let them destroy each other.Of course we can help it along some.. as you

Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation

1999-09-13 Thread Tatman, Robert
revolutions, were middle-class affairs...and the middle class is being royally screwed by the Oligarchy today. -Original Message- From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 9:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation snip

[CTRL] SWAT Nation

1999-09-10 Thread Ric Carter
-Caveat Lector- http://www.metroactive.com/papers/sonoma/07.01.99/swat1-9926.html [ Sonoma County | MetroActive Central | Archives ] SWAT Nation In the post-Columbine hysteria, even the tiny town of Windsor has voted to arm its police with assault weapons. Where's it all going to lead? By

Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation

1999-09-10 Thread Das GOAT
-Caveat Lector- This little piece of apartheid-era Soweto stranded in California isn't as unusual as one might think. Throughout the nation, paramilitary, SWAT, or tactical policing--that is, law enforcement that uses the equipment, training, rhetoric, and group tactics of war--are on the rise.

Re: [CTRL] SWAT Nation?

1999-09-10 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- SWAT Nation? ;-) another indoubtable goatee Bravo Om K DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with