-Caveat Lector- One says: Ok, start here http://home.talkcity.com/LibertySt/Arem and click to Civil Liberties, Free Republic. Now, as for "wide-spreading" your message . . . ask to become a part of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] and see if that don't get you an audience !!! I object to defects in process . . . one of those objections is to the use of ALL CAPITALS . . . you see, that is a nom de guerre (war name) under the Doctrine of Necessity, as declared every two years by our Presidents to continue the SUSPENSION of our Constitution . . . hmmmm. since FDR 1933. And, let us NOT get into a "democracy" - - - we started a Republic (if we could keep it) . . . so, also, may I recommend you join Excite.com Communities When you go to my home page (above) click on Civil Liberties (you will see my Constitutional Republic form of Government site) . . . go to its related links and click on Constitutional Alliance ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// I will past your post and my reply. There are others who are on the same beam as you on such topics. They will be able to go to your web site. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Reply to the above post. I am not on the internet. I can't go to web sites, I only have e-mail and my software only connects me to a local server until I can exchange in/out going mail. But I can/will subscribe to the newsletters you cited with @ in them. ================================== If you are on the internet, I can send you gov.txt I can not send large files, so I have to break them down. If you know how to cut and past, you can put it together and make it available to others. ================================= The file covers the set up of the republic, which is rePUBLIC . I don't have the defination in memory but a republic is a government which uses representative to represent the people as a whole. Political parties do not represent the will of the people, they represent the agenda of the political parties. (I won't go into all of that now, it is in the file) ================================= The petition network gives the people the power to recall politicians. At the present time, the party pals can flip the finger at the people and there is nothing we can do about it. Only if, politicians are accountable can there ever be a hint of a republic. There can not be, there is no republic in any nation where politicians have power over the people. ================================= Even though a lot of things you stated is a fact, only a few people know or care. While you have your hot issues, everyone else has their own. Information pollution? Do you have time in your life to read all the information available on the constitution and government outrage? Consider someone you know who reads book after book, reads and writes volumes on the internet.... What have they changed after 2 years? In 5 minutes any voter (who has not read one page of all that stuff) will do more to make a change at a voting booth than 10,000 students who have read a million pages. Taking such extensive information to the public will only bore them. If you are satisfied with things as they are, then there is no problem, but if you wish to change things you need the voters. It does little good to know all of that stuff if you can do nothing to change it. Forcing politicians to be under the control of the people will not be accomplished by knowing all the information on the internet or by reading ever page of written material. Forcing politicians to be representatives of the people will only be accomplished IF/WHEN the politicians are made accountable to the people. Passed out a petition? Signed a petition? Voted on an issue at the voting booth? Only those who do not engage in these constitutional given rights, need tell me about the evils of democracy. The American movement includes democracy and the right to petition as stated in the constitution and it integrates a republic ... an actual republic in which the "representatives" are not representative of the agendas of political parties nor are they representatives of bribe givers. Thanks for the info on the newsgroup . DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! 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