-Caveat Lector- Thanks Carol for this very important message regarding the redirection of space based weapons research and development funding to peaceful purposes. I agree with your sentiments of course, but wish to point out that space based weapons apparently already exist as photographed from the space shuttle in approx 1992 where live video feed since shown on network television shows what analysts describe as the "rail gun" or "brilliant pebbles" non-exploding high-speed projectiles being shot at UFO's in Earth's atmosphere which easily dodged these projectiles accelerated on a magnetic track reportedly powered by the military usurped n-Machine of Bruce DePalma http://www.depalma.pair.com . I do not have url reference to the NASA video feed in question but perhaps someone on a list this post reaches will by now have such reference. The date can be precisely determined because after this incident NASA changed from live to delayed video feed on all space shuttle missions to prevent such data from being repeated publicly. Since the 1985 Congressional testimony of Dr. Yonas, chief scientist of SDI "Star Wars" program where he requested funding for research and development of several SDI "critical technologies" including the "homopolar generator" (Michael Faraday's name for the rediscovered and shown overunity n-Machine), space based weapons have reportedly been covertly developed and deployed. This pity is that the new-energy technologies involved are the antidote to ending the environmental poisoning of nuclear and fossil fuel power technologies but these new-energy devices are being restricted to military use by our government and its secrecy order reproduced on page 163-4 of Jeane Manning's book about these technologies called The Coming Energy Revolution. (see exceprt below) For some references to these new technologies see http://www.padrak.com/ine and http://www.infinite-energy.com including the available LENT devices under development to neutralize radioactive materials. David Crockett Williams Global Emergency Alert Response http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000 -----Original Message----- From: carol rosin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: David Crockett Williams (by way of *STRIDER*) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 11:54 AM Subject: Re: White House Aims To Save Test Ban >I am a former corporate manager of an aerospace company, a space and missile >defense consultant, founder of the Institute for Security and Cooperation in >Outer Space, and an activist who helped to start the movement to prevent the >weaponization of space. > >For many years, I've said that the US will never stop testing...until there >is a ban on space-based weapons. That there will never be a CTB that will >survive. I've said that the ABM Treaty will be broken. Because these test, >space-based weapons and other dangerous technologies are a necessary part of >the US plan to seize the high ground...to point weapons down everyone's >throat "to control earth from space." > >If you really want to stop nuclear testing and the furthering of nuclear and >other dangerous technology research and development programs...call for a >verifiable ban on all space-based weapons...IMMEDIATELY. > >Over $125 billion is now in the largest R&D program in history...all aimed >at space-based weaponry. Another $15 billion was just allotted a few weeks >ago. In June, Clinton plans to announce his approval of DEPLOYMENT! > >The game goes on. > >However, there is a way to end this madness once and for all! All we have >to do is to eliminate the space-based weapons R&D, and take the money and >put it into expanding a non-weapons civilian, commercial and military space >program. > >Yes, military space program, too. In space is where the transformation of >the military is taking place. There are no weapons in space. Yet, the >military has a great role to play. And since the military is not going to >disappear, we have to give them something to do. Study what they are doing >in space...there are no weapons in their roles...yet. > >Stop the same old peace/anti-nuke rehetoric. If we want change, we have to >change, too. In order to preserve the treaties we want, to prevent further >testing, etc.: > >Call for: > >1) A worldwide ban on space-based weapons and > >2) A worldwide cooperative space program to be developed...without weapons >in space. > >For further information, input or questions, contact Carol Rosin, 498 >Manzanita Court, Ventura, CA. 93001. [EMAIL PROTECTED] >-----Original Message----- >From: David Crockett Williams (by way of *STRIDER*) ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Select List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Sunday, October 03, 1999 5:20 PM >Subject: AP: White House Aims To Save Test Ban > > >>From: "David Crockett Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 13:44:48 -0700 >>Via: Bay_Area_Activist list: >http://fornits.com/renegade/peaars.cgi?fetch=54 >> Archives: http://www.onelist.com/archives.cgi/bay_area_activist >>List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: [Bay_Area_Activist] AP: White House Aims To Save Test Ban >> >> >>http://wire.ap.org/APnews/center_story.html?FRONTID=NATIONAL&STORYID=APIS6 V >R6EI0 >>0 >> >> >>OCTOBER 02, 16:12 EDT >> >>White House Aims To Save Test Ban >> >>By TERENCE HUNT >>AP White House Correspondent >> >>WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House launched ``a hurry up offense'' Saturday >>to save a global nuclear test ban treaty, racing to build support for the >>landmark agreement while accusing Senate Republicans of trying to kill it >>with an unexpectedly quick vote. >> >>After two years of inaction and without any hearings on the treaty, Senate >>GOP leaders abruptly decided Thursday to hold a vote Oct. 12. >> >>``This is not what the Founding Fathers meant by advise and consent,'' >Sandy >>Berger, the national security adviser, said in an interview Saturday. >``This >>is hit and run.'' >> >>The administration and its allies accused Republicans of rushing the vote >in >>hopes of defeating the treaty. Democrats fear they are about 15 votes short >>of the 67 needed to ratify the agreement. >> >>Trying to build support, President Clinton will speak about the treaty >>Tuesday when he signs a major defense bill at the Pentagon. >> >>To demonstrate military backing for the agreement, Clinton will gather >>testimonials Wednesday from former chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, >>former astronaut and Sen. John Glenn, and Nobel laureate physicists. >> >>Republicans say the treaty is flawed, in part because it would not prevent >>countries such as North Korea, Iraq and Iran from testing. >> >>``We think it would put us in a weakened position internationally,'' Senate >>Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., said Friday. ``But since there have >>been all these calls and demands for a vote, we have offered to vote.'' >> >>Traditionally, major treaties are debated at length in committee hearings >>before coming to a vote in the Senate. >> >>``There has not been one day of hearings,'' Berger said. ``This process has >>been short-circuited. We're dealing here with the most serious and sober >>matter that comes before the Senate and we have a hurry up offense.'' >> >>The treaty calls for an outright ban on all nuclear testing. It has been >>signed by 152 nations, including the United States but it has been ratified >>only by 47 countries, the most recent Bulgaria on Wednesday. More >>significantly, the treaty has been ratified by only 23 of the 44 >>nuclear-capable countries that must ratify it for it to take effect. >> >>To win ratification, the treaty requires approval by a two-thirds vote in >>the Senate. Even if all 45 Democrats support the treaty, 22 other >>Republicans must vote ``yes'' for it to be ratified. >> >>The Senate Armed Services Committee will open three days of hearings on the >>treaty beginning Wednesday. The treaty normally would be considered by the >>Senate Foreign Relations Committee but its chairman, Sen. Jesse Helms, >>R-N.C., is one of its foremost opponents. Defense Secretary William Cohen >>and Gen. Henry H. Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, will present the >>administration's case. >> >>Cohen is cutting short a trip to Asia to return to Washington for a meeting >>Monday of Clinton's national security team. In Singapore, Cohen said >>Saturday that ratification of the treaty would send a strong signal to >India >>and Pakistan, as well as other nations, to temper their nuclear ambitions. >> >>A former Republican senator, Cohen said he wants ``to talk to former >>colleagues and ask them to keep an open mind.'' Shelton, also in Asia, may >>return early, too. >> >>``It's a verifiable treaty,'' Cohen said, adding that the United States has >>the technology to ensure nuclear tests are not conducted. >> >>The United States stopped nuclear testing in 1992 and relies on >>supercomputer simulations to test the nuclear arsenal. ``This is about >>whether we can stop other countries from testing,'' Berger said. >> >>``For the United States to say, `No,' we're going to go the other way, >we're >>going to go in the direction of the nuclear testers, is crazy,'' Berger >>said. >> >> >>home ] us news ] world ] business ] sports ] weather ] search ] help ] >> >> >> >>Copyright 1999 Associated Press. 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For differing results you may uncheck >>"article" and search on just "subject," etc. /RENEGADE/ also has >>"time-frame" in the search, so you can tailor your results that way, too. >> >>----- >> p.163-4 of Jeane Manning's book The Coming Energy Revolution, from Avery Harassing the Energy Innovators Keeping Inventors Quiet If you were an inventor trying to patent an important new-energy discovery, you might receive a secrecy order along the lines of the one reproduced here. According to information obtained under the Freedom of Information Act by the Federation of American Scientists, the Pentagon placed 774 patent applications under secrecy orders in 1991 -- up from 290 in 1979 -- and 506 of these orders were imposed on inventions by private companies. The government has standing gag orders on several thousand inventions. The following order issued in the 1980's was obtained by inventor Ken MacNeill of Georgia and revealed in 1983. SECRECY ORDER (Title 35, United States code [1952], sections 181-188) NOTICE: To the applicant above named, his heirs, and any and all his assignees, attorneys and agents, herinafter designated principals. You are hereby notified that your application as above identified has been found to contain subject matter, the unauthorized disclosure of which might be detrimental to the national security, and you are ordered in nowise to publich or disclose the invention or any material information with respect thereto, including hitherto unpublished details of the subject matter of said application, in any way to any person not cognizant of the invention prior to the date of the order, including any employee of the principals, but to keep the same secret except by written consent first obtained of the Commissioner of Patents, under the penalties of 35 U.S.C. [1952] 182, 186 Any other application already filed or hereafter filed which contains any significant part of the subject matter of the above identified application falls within the scope of this order. If such other application does not stand under a secrecy order, it and the common subject matter should be brought to the attention of the Security Group, Licensing and Review, Patent Office. If, prior to the issuance of the secrecy order, any significant part of the subject matter has been revealed to any person, the principals shall promptly inform such person of the secrecy order and the penalties for improper disclosure. However, if such part of the subject matter was disclosed to any person in a foreign country or foreign national in the U.S., the prinicpals shall not inform such person of the secrecy order, but instead shall promptly furnish to the Commission of Patents the following information to the extent not already furnished: Date of disclosure, name and address of the disclosee, identification of such part; and any authorization by any U.S. Government agency to export such part. If the subject matter is included in any foreign patent application or patent this should be indentified. The principals shall comply with any related instructions of the Commissioneer. This order shall not be construed in any way to mean that the Government has adopted or contemplates adopton of the alledged invention disclosed in this application; nor is it any indication of the value of such invention. 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