-Caveat Lector- Hi Jean, The interview with Antony Sutton which you forwarded is an interesting one, which I read a few days ago. I know the interviewer, Kris, from an email list I've been on for a year or so. Antony Sutton is a great source of information- I'm planning to buy a few of his books on political stuff; he also writes about alternative energy, seems especially interested in cold fusion. David Gould seems to be a bit on the proselytic side of Christiandom for my personal "comfort." Your information from Nancy regarding the Windows 4 digit date is CORRECT. However- the "NSAkey" crypto information at: http://www.cryptonym.com/hottopics/msft-nsa.html is apparently QUITE TRUE, and many high-level security programmers/analysts are working on this issue. It has been widely reported in online technical circles and news sources. Microsoft denies any truth in the matter, but fails to provide convincing explanation- they claim it's a "backup key" -which crypto experts agree is a "feeble" excuse. NSA's comment: "US export control regulations require that cryptographic [application program interfaces] be signed," NSA's public affairs office wrote. "The implementation of this requirement is left up to the company. Specific questions about specific products should be addressed to the company." My personal investigation on the "NSAkey" crypto key leads me to believe it is exactly what it says it is: NSAkey. Denials in print conform to establishment disinformation protocols such as denouncing the investigators as "conspiracy kooks," etc., but provide no plausible explanation outside of the obvious: NSA is obsessed with accessing the world's communications. http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/21589.html?wnpg=2 We already have proof that they've been "eavesdropping" on PRIVATE communications through Project Echelon for over 10 YEARS. This information was first made public in CAQ (Covert Action Quarterly) in 1996: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/t362aa4881def.htm and is currently of interest to the U.S. Congress in terms of eliminating NSA's spying on U.S. citizen's telephone and internet traffic: http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a37582c5120d3.htm It should here be noted that the Internet was created by the U.S DoD (Department of Defence; the MILITARY) and it should be assumed that EVERY BIT of Internet traffic is readily available to U.S. government interception via Project Echelon. (Please read this paragraph once more) We also know that Microsoft provides their software to the U.S. government on CD's which need no installation key (for ease of unlimited installations). We also know that the U.S. Department of Justice appears to have abruptly lost interest in anti-trust proceedings against Microsoft- which has an undeniable history of crushing it's competition to reach it's current undeniable MONOPOLY. It would appear that Microsoft may have bought it's secure monopoly status? Unless we are to be pacified by the mouthings of Microsoft and the visible portion of the U.S. government's covert "intelligence gathering" agency, we must assume that the most likely scenario is the TRUE one; and that a lame excuse of a "secret backup key" is a lame excuse. Looking this Trojan "gift horse" in the mouth allows us the chance to possibly "pull the teeth" of this plan- to investigate carefully this rare OPPORTUNITY to gain control of the encryption "backdoor" built into Microsoft's operating systems ('95 osr2, all '98, all NT4 & NT5) by inserting the encryption key of OUR OWN choice in place of the "NSAkey." Programmers are hard at work on it- if you're a programmer who'd like to get involved, see the cryptonym site. best wishes, Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -----Original Message----- From: jean hudon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 09, 1999 2:24 AM To: Dave Subject: THIS WILL BE OF INTEREST TO YOU!! Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 From: Mark Graffis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 201-Sutton Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 22:23:10 -0700 From: David Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 201-Sutton Post Number 201: Anthony Sutton This man should need no introduction; you would do well to read every book he has written and start with The Best Enemy Money Can Buy. This is where he shows that Russia could never have existed without money from the United States. This is where you begin to lea snip A THEN I ASK THIS TO NANCY... Thanks Nancy for letting me know, albeit belatedly. I'll pass this on to the list in a coming series of feedbacks. Can you please check with Melanie is this other one below is also a hoax -- to her knowledge... From: Zombie Cow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:13:01 -0400 Subject: A-M$: The Microsoft NSA Back Door. http://www.cryptonym.com/hottopics/msft-nsa.html It turns out that every copy of Windows 95, 98, NT 4, and Windows 2000 has a back door that makes it easy for the National Security Agency to gain access to your computer. The first two paragraphs of the press release follow. Full details are available via the URL posted above, as well as a sample program you can use to replace the NSA back door. Research Triangle Park, NC - 31 August 1999 - Between Hotmail hacks and browser bugs, Microsoft has a dismal track record in computer security. Most of us accept these minor security flaws and go on with life. But how is an IT manager to feel when they learn that in every copy of Windows sold, Microsoft has installed a 'back door' for the National Security Agency (NSA - the USA's spy agency) making it orders of magnitude easier for the US government to access their computers? While investigating the security subsystems of WindowsNT4, Cryptonym's Chief Scientist Andrew Fernandes discovered exactly that - a back door for the NSA in every copy of Win95/98/NT4 and Windows2000. Building on the work of Nicko van Someren (NCipher), and Adi Shamir (the 'S' in 'RSA'), Andrew was investigating Microsoft's "CryptoAPI" architecture for security flaws. Since the CryptoAPI is the fundamental building block of cryptographic security in Windows, any flaw in it would open Windows to electronic attack. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! 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