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All conscious people must work to expose, educate about, and fight against the anti-human teachings and principles of Judeo-Christian-Islamic religions. They must be combatted directly, but without blaming their believers. We have to be _more_ direct about this, not less. Since there are also some pro-human teachings in these religions, we can identify these and use them with believers to show why they should reject the harmful ideas -- domination, anti-sexuality, male supremacy, genital mutilation ("circumcision" in Judaism and Islam), anti-rationality, blind belief in and obedience to authority, hatred of homosexual people, and other anti-human beliefs falsely labelled as "morality". There is only one valid principle of morality, and it's very simple: Do not harm people or other sentient beings. The Right constantly strives to indoctrinate people with these anti-human principles, because they believe in them themselves or because they use them to motivate people into domination and war, and then profit from the resulting death and destruction. If we emulate the "Democratic" Party and simply go along with these increasing anti-human trends in our culture in an attempt to get the believers to support us, we will abandon our own pro-human principles and still lose the indoctrinated believers, who will continue to flock to the fascists for assurance that their already-programmed viciousness and hatred are legitimate and justified. The terms "left elitism", "latte liberals", etc., used by the original poster (below) are fascist propaganda that we should never accept. If people laugh about religious fundamentalists it's only to cover up our fear that the fundamentalists' horrible belief systems are spreading and overwhelming the pro-human cultural elements in our societies, and thus inevitably leading to massive domination, misery, murder, and planetary death. We should face these awful facts squarely and stop laughing. Currently some fascist/fundamentalist Christians in the U.S. are allied with fascist/fundamentalist Jews (Zionists) in Israel to start a nuclear war -- "Armageddon" -- in the Middle East for the Christians and to expand Israel to include the eastern third of Egypt and the western half of Iraq ("Greater Israel") while implementing the Final Solution for the Palestinians. As one of the pretexts for this bogus "War on Terror" they use the actual suppression and maltreatment of women under Islam in most Moslem countries. We must directly challenge and fight the fundamentalist beliefs while feeling and expressing kinship with the believers, since they are people like ourselves, but who have been programmed to hate and harm others. We must expose and undo that programming. It requires much intelligence, persistence, and kindness to discover and practice ways of accomplishing this, but we have no other choice. Judeo-Christian-Islamic fundamentalist beliefs are like cancer viruses that replicate within living cells and spread to other cells, programming them all to attack and destroy their neighbors, and thereby causing a breakdown of the cooperation among cells and organs that is necessary for life, resulting in death of the whole organism. We must be like the immune system and fight against these destructive beliefs, helping the people who believe in them to see how harmful the beliefs are, and giving them help and support for whatever they feel they need the beliefs for. There is no other choice. If religious fundamentalism is allowed to continue to spread, in our world of immense technological destructive power and perilous ecological fragility, it will be the end of the human species and probably of all life on Earth. References: http://www.dhushara.com/book/renewal/voices2/eisler.htm _The Chalice and the Blade_, by Riane Eisler, 1988, ISBN 0-06-250-289-1, HarperSanFrancisco, $18. An overview of the archaeological work of Marija Gimbutas and others. It explains the macro-history of human culture, and proves that domination, patriarchy, and war are culturally programmed, rather than biologically innate. _Sacred Pleasure: Sex, Myth, and the Politics of the Body_, by Riane Eisler, 1996, ISBN 0-06-250283-2, HarperSanFrancisco Continuation of the topics of _The Chalice and the Blade_, including the events that triggered the origin of dominator culture. On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 03:44:39PM -0800, Avis Worthington wrote: >... >Think before you speak. For instance, the often repeated phrase-A woman has >a right to control her own body. > >Many iffy words to conservatives. We'll pass on A, but woman could mean >uppity, shouldering aside the menfolk. Right, some say there's too much >talk about rights. Control, oh, my God, woman control could be worse than >government control. Body. You mean, all pink and nekkid? Can't think >about that. > >And then it looks like these women have no use for little babies. Shows how >selfish they are. > >I'm only half kidding. I think the menfolk have often been demonized by the >left elite. And feminists. I think they're worried that their families >won't survive. And here we sit with our latte's and look down on them. I >have lectured against left elitism. The men who felt worthless in the Great >Depression gained a feeling of personal worth by fighting the war. There's >got to be a better way. > >Gray Panthers at Night is meeting next Wednesday night, Nov. 17 at 7 p.m. in >the office behind University Andronicos, off Addison Street, in Berkeley to >discuss with the Rockridge folks how to frame our stands and issues better. >All welcome. Some refreshments as long as the crowd's not too big. > >Avis > >> From: "Loraine Mirza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:36:25 -0800 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [NewPacifica] King/Drew struggle heats up >> >> That is true what Avis has said. Many poor and oppressed people actually >> vote against their own best interests. 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