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Hitler is already dead."
"It is no longer my country"
"For me, this business called the state of Israel is finished...I can't bear
to see it anymore, the injustice that is done to the Arabs, to the Beduins.
All kinds of scum coming from America and as soon as they get off the plane
taking over lands in the territories and claiming it for their own...I can't
do anything to change it. I can only go away and let the whole lot go to
hell
without me." Israeli actress (and household name) Rivka Mitchell
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"Nazis! Nazis!"
"Mr. Prime Minister, Adolf Hitler is already dead."
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"Mr. Prime Minister, Adolf Hitler is already dead." Mr. Saramago, one could
say in the same vein, Auschwitz and Buchenwald are already closed down. The
continuing systematic assault on the human rights of the Palestinians in the
territories is so terrible not because it resembles what the Nazis did to
the
Jews...........
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"Nazis! Nazis!"
By Tom Segev
About a year ago, the General Staff of the Israel Defense Forces held a
special discussion on the lessons of the Holocaust. The generals met in a
conference hall at the Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial in Jerusalem, but the
discussion was closed to the media and void of any sign of ceremoniousness.
At one stage a lively argument broke out among the country's top officers on
the question of whether the heritage of the Holocaust is beneficial or
harmful, essential or superfluous for soldiers who are now called on to
suppress the intifada.
It was a fascinating meeting. Generals who identify with the left advocated
the presence of the Holocaust as a restraining factor; those who identify
with the right advocated the presence of the Holocaust as a steeling factor.
True, the Holocaust has become a major component of the Israeli identity,
but
contrary to what is commonly thought, it is not always a unifying factor.
Some people tend to emphasize the national lessons of the Holocaust, find in
it the justification for Israel's establishment and for entrenching its
security, and frequently cite it to justify government policy, including the
defense of the settlements in the territories. Others are inclined to
emphasize the humanitarian lessons of the Holocaust: the obligation to
defend
democracy and human rights, fight racism and explain to Israeli soldiers
that
the law obliges them to disobey flagrantly illegal orders, referring mainly
to orders entailing serious harm to a civilian population. These two
approaches are not necessarily contradictory, but it is only natural that
the
national lessons are more readily accepted by the right, while the humani
tarian lessons speak more cogently to the left.
Both sides of the political map have always made use of Nazism as a term of
abuse, and this can still be seen in the Knesset. Nearly every Arab leader,
including President Sadat, was likened to Hitler.
David Ben-Gurion likened Menachem Begin to Hitler, and Begin likened Yasser
Arafat to Hitler. Not long ago, Arafat learned that Israel Defense Forces
soldiers were writing numbers on the arms of Palestinians whom they arrested
in the territories, and he immediately shouted "Nazis! Nazis!" This week, he
was joined in that shout by Jose Saramago, from Portugal, a Nobel Prize
laureate for literature. Saramago declared that Israel's actions in the
territories are comparable to the crimes that were perpetrated at Auschwitz
and Buchenwald. That sounds more like something he read on the inside of the
door of a public lavatory than something he wrote in his books. What he said
was harmful to the cause it was supposed to serve, so he also emerged from
the episode looking stupid. Because to shout "Nazis! Nazis" is tantamount to
crying wolf.
The Holocaust, which is today a universal code of ultimate evil, conferred
on
all of humanity moral and political lessons, and people in most countries of
the world recognize those lessons. Concomitantly, anti-Semitic laws no
longer
exist, and many countries, including Germany, viewed the Holocaust as a
source of inspiration to establish or fortify democratic regimes. There have
always been people who have stood by Israel because they felt that the
Holocaust cast responsibility on them for Israel's well-being. And there
have
always been people who in the name of the Holocaust demanded that Israel
display lofty moral attitudes and some who demanded a higher morality from
Israel than they themselves manifested. There have always been people, among
them Arabs and anti-Semites, who rejected Israel's very right to exist and
likened it to Nazi Germany. To this day there are anti-Semitic undertones in
some of the media articles that are critical of Israel.
However, probably some of the criticism that is voiced abroad concerning
Israel's refusal to evacuate the territories and its repression of their
population prevents Israel from doing even worse things in the territories.
In this sense, the criticism abroad saves Israel from itself: there is
hardly
a country anywhere that does not take external criticism into account.
Criticism from the outside also encourages domestic criticism and
self-restraint. But the opposite is also true: those who liken Israel to the
Nazis usually produce the opposite of the result they had intended. Because
nowadays everyone says, and rightly, that Israel is not perpetrating Nazi
deeds in the territories, and the next logical statement is that Israel is
A-OK: after all, it's a fact that it isn't doing what the Nazis did. Chief
Rabbi Israel Meir Lau said that to compare Israel to the Nazis is to turn it
into "an outlaw state," and it follows that of Israel is Nazi Germany, it
must be destroyed. So, like then, in the Holocaust, we are again together,
facing a cruel world that is entirely against us. All thanks to Saramago.
The correct place of the Holocaust is first of all within its historical
context. It is legitimate to view it as a source of inspiration for values
and for moral and political lessons, legitimate to debate those values and
lessons, provided the debate is serious, deep and honest. It is not
legitimate but reprehensible, and, above all, it is ineffective, to exploit
the Holocaust as a demagogic argument for political purposes. Saramago's
remarks recall a letter that Menachem Begin sent to U.S. President Ronald
Reagan in which he informed him that he had decided to send the IDF to
Beirut
in order to apprehend Adolf Hitler in his bunker. To which the writer Amos
Oz
responded: "Mr. Prime Minister, Adolf Hitler is already dead." Mr. Saramago,
one could say in the same vein, Auschwitz and Buchenwald are already closed
down. The continuing systematic assault on the human rights of the
Palestinians in the territories is so terrible not because it resembles what
the Nazis did to the Jews, but despite the fact that it doesn't.
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Tom Segev ignores the full range of Nazi activities in occupied Europe.
The Israel behavior may not look like the Holocaust, but it certainly
follows the script of the Nazi program of Umvolkung that the Nazis applied
against Slavic populations and in particular the Poles. Max Weinreich
discusses Umvolkung in Hitler's Professors.
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'Geraldo' says Israel is "inflicting, not fighting, terrorism"
"I have been a Zionist my entire life. I would die for Israel. But
watching the suffering of the Palestinian people, I'm also becoming a
Palestinian-ist."--Geraldo
"You can't round up Palestinian young men
and put numbers on their arms to make it easier to identify them," he
said. "That reminds the world, that reminds Jews, of what Hitler and the
Nazi pigs inflicted on the Jewish race during the Second World
War."---Geraldo
Confessions:
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cleansed the Palestinians in 1948, but wants Israel to do it all over again.
The old one the late-Israeli Tourist Minister, Rechavam Zeevi, said:
"The Jewish teachings are racist, and that is a good thing."
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"It is no longer my country"
"For me, this business called the state of Israel is finished...I can't bear
to see it anymore, the injustice that is done to the Arabs, to the Beduins.
All kinds of scum coming from America and as soon as they get off the plane
taking over lands in the territories and claiming it for their own...I can't
do anything to change it. I can only go away and let the whole lot go to
hell
without me." Israeli actress (and household name) Rivka Mitchell, quoted in
Israeli peace movement periodical, "The Other Israel", August 1998.
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