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At Sun, 5 Jul 2020 21:09:27 -0700, Brian Buhrow wrote:
Subject: Re: NetBSD-7.0 boots OK and NetBSD-8.0 hangs/crashes during boot on a
MacBook7,1
>
> Hello. I agree with Mouse, except that I also think it would be very
> helpful and useful to have a serial console on USB only devices.
Or i
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 05:07:00PM +0200, Martin Husemann wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 07:55:29AM -0700, Brian Buhrow wrote:
> > hello. In my case, there are times when I want a serial console, for
> > set up or troubleshooting, but cannot use the built-in display for various
> > reasons.
> On Jul 6, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Mike Pumford wrote:
>
> On 06/07/2020 16:07, Martin Husemann wrote:
>> Stupid question: are there now actually x86 boards that do *not* have a real
>> serial on-board? I have not seen any so far (none of the new ones come with
>> an external connector of course, b
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020, Martin Husemann wrote:
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 05:07:51PM +0100, Mike Pumford wrote:
A quick look around suggests that some of the very high end gaming ones
don't. Also assuming users will actually be able to find a cable to actually
hook up the motherboard COM port is optimi
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 05:07:51PM +0100, Mike Pumford wrote:
> A quick look around suggests that some of the very high end gaming ones
> don't. Also assuming users will actually be able to find a cable to actually
> hook up the motherboard COM port is optimistic. You would probably have to
> get o
On 06/07/2020 16:07, Martin Husemann wrote:
Stupid question: are there now actually x86 boards that do *not* have a real
serial on-board? I have not seen any so far (none of the new ones come with
an external connector of course, but they can be added easily unless it is
a notebook).
A quick
> Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 13:49:26 +0100
> From: Chavdar Ivanov
>
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 02:14, Taylor R Campbell wrote:
> >
> > This and the earlier panic you reported may be fixed by
> >
> > https://mail-index.netbsd.org/source-changes/2020/07/06/msg119081.html
>
> I upgraded this morning. Unf
Brian Buhrow wrote:
> Hello. I'm thinking of notebooks. Yes, they have screens and
> keyboards, but those are not always usable and, having a serial console
> over USB could let someone install to a notebook remotely.
> Also, I've encountered some Intel based appliance boards that don't h
Hello. I'm thinking of notebooks. Yes, they have screens and
keyboards, but those are not always usable and, having a serial console
over USB could let someone install to a notebook remotely.
Also, I've encountered some Intel based appliance boards that don't have easily
used serial por
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 07:55:29AM -0700, Brian Buhrow wrote:
> hello. In my case, there are times when I want a serial console, for
> set up or troubleshooting, but cannot use the built-in display for various
> reasons. So, I think it would be useful in more situations than might
> first a
hello. In my case, there are times when I want a serial console, for
set up or troubleshooting, but cannot use the built-in display for various
reasons. So, I think it would be useful in more situations than might
first appear. Yes, it wouldn't give you DDB on that console, but for
envir
On 2020/07/06 10:05, Greg A. Woods wrote:
NetBSD-7.2 boots fine from USB on the MacBook Pro (MacBook7,1) (with the
help of rEFIT on a second USB stick).
NetBSD-8.2 and newer, including the most recent -current, hangs during
boot and the kernel messages appear to have torn video:
http://ww
On 06.07.2020 14:31, Robert Elz wrote:
> Date:Sun, 5 Jul 2020 23:11:44 +0200
> From:Kamil Rytarowski
> Message-ID: <57c15085-dc7d-6c71-1b26-a402839ba...@netbsd.org>
>
> | This is extended to the behavior of "at dlclose() or a normal program
> | termination".
>
>
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 at 02:14, Taylor R Campbell wrote:
>
> > Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 11:45:48 +0100
> > From: Chavdar Ivanov
> >
> > panic: fpudna from userland, ip 0x7c16e87b95ca, trapframe 0xce01527ec000
> > cpu0: Begin traceback...
> > vpanic() at netbsd:vpanic+0x152
> > snprintf() at netbsd:
On Sun, Jul 05, 2020 at 11:11:44PM +0200, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
> Literal and unextended implementation of the standard happened to be
> unpractical. All/most mainstream users (all other BSDs, Win, Mac, GNU,
> Solaris, ...) diverged from it within the last 20 years.
Funny that you should mention
Date:Sun, 5 Jul 2020 23:11:44 +0200
From:Kamil Rytarowski
Message-ID: <57c15085-dc7d-6c71-1b26-a402839ba...@netbsd.org>
| This is extended to the behavior of "at dlclose() or a normal program
| termination".
Extended by whom or what? What I quoted was from a dr
> I agree with Mouse, except that I also think it would be very helpful
> and useful to have a serial console on USB only devices.
Oh, sure, it'd be helpful/useful. Lots of difficult things would be.
> I wonder if we could make the console a virtual device which is
> attached dynamically to a US
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 12:34:32PM +0300, Andreas Gustafsson wrote:
> Why would acting as a device be needed?
To emulate a serial console on an USB OTG port.
Martin
Martin Husemann wrote:
> USB keyboards as console in ddb worked fine last I tested.
That has not been my experience. For example,
PR 52569 Entering ddb using USB keyboard panics with "locking against myself"
PR 54599 Can't enter ddb using USB keyboard because console
> Running the usb host
On 06/07/2020 10:01, Martin Husemann wrote:
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 09:52:31AM +0100, Mike Pumford wrote:
Like it or not its probably going to be a long term requirement to have
console USB support. If not for the serial output its becoming more and more
necessary just to get a console keyboa
On Mon, Jul 06, 2020 at 09:52:31AM +0100, Mike Pumford wrote:
> Like it or not its probably going to be a long term requirement to have
> console USB support. If not for the serial output its becoming more and more
> necessary just to get a console keyboard for DDB.
USB keyboards as console in ddb
On 06/07/2020 05:09, Brian Buhrow wrote:
Hello. I agree with Mouse, except that I also think it would be very
helpful and useful to have a serial console on USB only devices. I wonder
if we could make the console a virtual device which is attached dynamically
to a USB serial port if
Hi, all.
On 2020/06/29 12:53, Kengo NAKAHARA wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 2020/06/28 0:24, Patrick Welche wrote:
>> Trying a today's -current/amd64 with DIAGNOSTIC/DEBUG/LOCKDEBUG, I can
>> boot multiuser without a network. If I log in as root, as soon as I hit
>> enter:
>>
>> # ifconfig wm0 inet 10.0.0.6
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