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2021-12-08 Thread NetBSD source update
Updating src tree: P src/bin/sh/parser.c P src/common/lib/libc/arch/i386/string/strlen.S P src/common/lib/libc/arch/x86_64/string/strlen.S P src/distrib/notes/Makefile.inc P src/distrib/notes/sparc/install P src/games/trek/DOC/trekmanual.nr P src/games/trek/USD.doc/trek.me P src/include/arpa/name

Re: backward compatibility: how far can it reasonably go?

2021-12-08 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Wed, 8 Dec 2021 11:36:17 -0800, Jason Thorpe wrote: Subject: Re: backward compatibility: how far can it reasonably go? > > > > On Dec 8, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Greg A. Woods > > wrote: > > That's one bullet I've dodged entirely already since my oldest > > systems are running netbsd-5 stable. (Th

Re: backward compatibility: how far can it reasonably go?

2021-12-08 Thread Brad Spencer
Jason Thorpe writes: >> On Dec 8, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Greg A. Woods wrote: >> >> That's one bullet I've dodged entirely already since my oldest systems >> are running netbsd-5 stable. (Though in theory isn't there supposed to >> be COMPAT support for SA?) > > int > compat_60_sys_sa_register(lwp

Re: backward compatibility: how far can it reasonably go?

2021-12-08 Thread Jason Thorpe
> On Dec 8, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Greg A. Woods wrote: > > That's one bullet I've dodged entirely already since my oldest systems > are running netbsd-5 stable. (Though in theory isn't there supposed to > be COMPAT support for SA?) int compat_60_sys_sa_register(lwp_t *l, const struct com

Re: backward compatibility: how far can it reasonably go?

2021-12-08 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Wed, 08 Dec 2021 11:08:09 -0500, Brad Spencer wrote: Subject: Re: backward compatibility: how far can it reasonably go? > > When I took a system from 4.0 to 7.x some time ago, the only thing that > I had problems with was anything that used scheduler activations since > that had been removed.

Re: backward compatibility: how far can it reasonably go?

2021-12-08 Thread Greg A. Woods
At Wed, 8 Dec 2021 15:32:24 -, ya...@sdf.org wrote: Subject: Re: backward compatibility: how far can it reasonably go? > > > "Greg A. Woods" writes: no, Greg Troxel wrote: > > I am unclear if ipf has been removed by default from current. > Even in NetBSD 9, ipf is not in the GENERIC kernel

Re: backward compatibility: how far can it reasonably go?

2021-12-08 Thread Brad Spencer
Brad Spencer writes: > You can also shut the DOMU down and present the disks to another DOMU in > real time using "xl block-attach " just use the "r" device if you > use devices or the file otherwise. I have done this for many years with > PV DOMUs on many different Xen versions. Once you

Re: backward compatibility: how far can it reasonably go?

2021-12-08 Thread Brad Spencer
"Greg A. Woods" writes: > At Tue, 7 Dec 2021 20:37:26 -0800 (PST), Paul Goyette > wrote: > Subject: Re: backward compatibility: how far can it reasonably go? >> >> Without looking at the details of your backtrace, the issue with >> ifconfig(8) could be related to PRs kern/54150 and/or kern/5415

Re: backward compatibility: how far can it reasonably go?

2021-12-08 Thread Brad Spencer
"Greg A. Woods" writes: > So I've got a couple of old but important machines (Xen amd64 domUs) > running NetBSD-5, and I've finally decided that I'm reasonably well > enough prepared to try upgrading them. > > However it seems a "modern" (9.99.81, -current from about 2021-03-10) > kernel with COM

Re: backward compatibility: how far can it reasonably go?

2021-12-08 Thread yancm
> "Greg A. Woods" writes: > I am unclear if ipf has been removed by default from current. > Even in NetBSD 9, ipf is not in the GENERIC kernel config. Was the kernel compiled to use ipf? e.g. add to kernel config: options IPFILTER_LOG# ipmon(8) log support options IPFILTER_L

Re: backward compatibility: how far can it reasonably go?

2021-12-08 Thread Greg Troxel
"Greg A. Woods" writes: > So I've got a couple of old but important machines (Xen amd64 domUs) > running NetBSD-5, and I've finally decided that I'm reasonably well > enough prepared to try upgrading them. > > However it seems a "modern" (9.99.81, -current from about 2021-03-10) > kernel with CO