Re: [EXT] RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Request for CWE: Improper Licensing (UNCLASSIFIED)

2023-11-09 Thread Kurt Seifried
What if a license has a clause that requires an insecure or problematic setting/configuration/behavior? Someone did a parody licence called the " Insecure License" but I wouldn't put it past sometime to have done this for real. What about audit clauses (e.g. can I audit the NSA usage of my product)

Re: [EXT] RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Request for CWE: Improper Licensing (UNCLASSIFIED)

2023-11-09 Thread Hatfield, Arthur
I think the main distinction that I want to be observed is that the CWEs are about vulnerabilities that are intrinsic to a piece of software (firmware, hardware) due to defects in its design or implementation, leading to unwanted behavior of the software (firmware, hardware) itself. Licensing is

Re: [EXT] RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Request for CWE: Improper Licensing (UNCLASSIFIED)

2023-11-09 Thread Przemyslaw Roguski
Hi Jon, Thank you for accepting different opinions and I'm really happy that we have this discussion here. To be honest I never consider licensing issues as a potential problem that could be considered as a software weakness. But it seems that such a clarification is required. Let me repeat what I

[EXT] RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Request for CWE: Improper Licensing (UNCLASSIFIED)

2023-11-09 Thread Hood, Jonathan W CTR USARMY DEVCOM AVMC (USA)
I understand the position better with this analogy; thank you. I do believe that it is not a comparable analogy. Raising energy prices are not a property of the software. A software license is a property of the software, so the argument you make here is based off of an initial assertion that

[EXT] Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Request for CWE: Improper Licensing (UNCLASSIFIED)

2023-11-09 Thread Hatfield, Arthur
Look at it this way: Licensing issues are not a property of software, but of the society and economy around the software. A buffer overflow in a driver will crash your computer and make it unavailable any time data passes through it in a particular way, no matter who is causing that data to go

[EXT] RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Request for CWE: Improper Licensing (UNCLASSIFIED)

2023-11-09 Thread Hood, Jonathan W CTR USARMY DEVCOM AVMC (USA)
I respectfully disagree with this. Using a license incorrectly causes an availability issue directly, and availability is one of the cybersecurity principles that represent weaknesses and vulnerabilities by the definitions I am aware of. Can you please help me understand what definition CWE