CS: Legal-policeman jailed for stealing gun

2000-08-19 Thread Steven Kendrick
Policeman jailed for stealing amnesty gun A policeman who gave away a pistol which was handed in during a guns amnesty following the Dunblane School massacre has been jailed for six months. Desmond Pearson, a Constable with the South Yorkshire force, had been found guilty at an earlier trial at

CS: Misc-What's the best body armour?

2000-08-19 Thread Gregory
From: "Gregory", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Level I (1) is not generally used anymore. Proof against light handgun fire. Level II is 'proof' against vast majority of low- medium power handgun rounds, Level II a (2a) is less so, but lighter. Level III a (3a) is proof against ALL standard handgun rounds;

CS: Legal-Section 5 authority

2000-08-19 Thread pa49
From: "pa49", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am sure there are many who can correct my logic on this one and please do. My understanding is that the Firearms acts in current force do not as such ban things but proscribe them. Handguns were moved out of one section and into another which our FACs and the

CS: Legal-It serves you right judge tells burglar

2000-08-19 Thread pa49
From: "pa49", [EMAIL PROTECTED] >It serves you right judge tells burglar stabbed by victim >A JUDGE yesterday backed a I householder who nearly >killed an armed robber during a violent raid on >his home. Knowing nothing more than the details in the report I have two observations on this case.

CS: Misc-police guns

2000-08-19 Thread kate
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've never completely understood why SMGs are used for law enforcement operations like this or even sillier, semi-auto carbines. A handgun fires the same ammunition and is easier to point inside a house. The range involved is very short and you can mount a light on a h

CS: Misc-Ricochets

2000-08-19 Thread Norman
From: Norman Bassett, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was recalling something Churchill said about General Haigh in the Great War having a lanolin-based treatment done to his uniform, under which he wore a bullet-resistant jacket consisting of metal plates in a cloth matrix. The point of the treatment was

CS: Misc-baton guns

2000-08-19 Thread kate
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I was two yards from the guy and I could read the make and model I would still treat it as a lethal threat. You have no idea what the guy could have done to it to increase the power of the gun. For all you know he could have bought it in France or somewhere where the

CS: Legal-Section 54, Firearms Act 1968

2000-08-19 Thread kate
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the home office! "As a general rule of law, Acts of Parliament do not bin the Crown or its servants unless specifically stated as doing so. The Firearms Acts 1968 to 1997 therefore do not apply to Crown servants in general. In this respect, Section 54 of the Fire

CS: Pol-Should we vote for Chief Constables

2000-08-19 Thread relwell
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >And wouldn't it be nice if we could choose non police >as Chief Constables too? from my limited reading of Agatha Christie et al { :-) } it seems that lots of pre World War II Chief Constables were not risen-from-the-ranks policeman. Also, when did the "Trenchard" dir

CS: Pol-police guns

2000-08-19 Thread Hugh Bellars
From: "Hugh Bellars", [EMAIL PROTECTED] In an ideal world yes. It used to be amazing to watch the top pistol shots do a flash sight picture and compressed surprise-break and achieve accuracy at high speed - in fact I wasn't that bad myself once (very big nostalgic sigh!). However, I think tha

CS: Misc-Transcript of proceedings at the public inquiry into incident at Dunb

2000-08-19 Thread Graham Gartshore
From: "Graham Gartshore", [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was having a look around the National Library of Scotland homepage at http://www.nls.ac.uk If you use the search "cullen AND dunblane" you will get three titles to look up, Public inquiry into the shooting, Submissions presented to the public, Tran

CS: Legal-anonymity

2000-08-19 Thread Dave
From: Dave Reay, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Well, is that not rather hypocritical? Not really, I believe the similarities between the police and shooters are very close, 150 years of the organised shooting of handguns as a sport, and about the same length of time for the organised policing of this cou

CS: Legal-S.54 etc.

2000-08-19 Thread Dave
From: Dave Reay, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Oh, and by the way, Dave, a little piece of education >for you. The revenue from all your beloved speed >cameras goes to the treasury. The Police don't >get any of it! Strange but true. Another thing.. >you must have got a speeding ticket when you were a

CS: Legal-Anonymity

2000-08-19 Thread Jim FRANKLIN
From: "Jim FRANKLIN", [EMAIL PROTECTED] [. However I draw the line at Crown Servants using their position to express views on the Law, Policy and further, making provocative statements to the effect that the general population abuse their hard won freedom, cannot be trusted, should be disa

CS: Target-BP corrosiveness & Chemistry lesson

2000-08-19 Thread Donald
From: Donald Campbell, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Also, one of the products of combustion is >Sulphuric acid, a recognised corrosive which will attack steel.>> > >Yes Potassium Nitrate (KNO3 (all my trailing numbers are >subscript :-))is a

CS: Pol-Commonwealth Games

2000-08-19 Thread Neil Roberts
From: "Neil Roberts", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does Bisley have a current Range Safety Certificate, if so does it cover CF Pistols as our range was recently certificated and had no CF Pistols on it. If Bisley is the same then how are they going to shoot pistols. Neil Roberts -- I didn't think safety

CS: Pol-Australia Atty-General letter to dealers

2000-08-19 Thread Adrian
From: Adrian, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Importation of Handguns > >The amendments to the Regulations require the australian Customs Service >(Customs) to store any handguns imported for dealer stock into australia >until they have been sold to an end-user authorised by State/Territory >police - in muc

CS: Pol-freedom of speech

2000-08-19 Thread nick
From: nick royall, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Crown servants are not allowed to be overtly political in the sense of campaigning for any single party, showing bias etc but that does not mean they are not allowed to have an opinion or to voice it. The same applies to most of the rest of us who may use th

CS: Target-BP corrosiveness & Remedial Chemistry lesson

2000-08-19 Thread EVANS,CHRIS \(HP-Unitedkingdom,ex1\)
From: "EVANS,CHRIS (HP-Unitedkingdom,ex1)", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Science will beat the anoraks any day. > Chemically, the empirical formula for combustion of Black > Powder can be written as follows: >Heat> > 4KNO4 + 7C + 2S = K2CO3 + K2S2 + 3CO2 + 2N2 >

CS: Misc-Speed Cameras.

2000-08-19 Thread jonathan
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Oh, and by the way, Dave, a little piece of education > >for you. The revenue from all your beloved speed > >cameras goes to the treasury. The Police don't > >get any of it! Strange but true. I know that the Police don't get the revenue from Cameras at the Moment bu

CS: Legal-Commonwealth Games, Crown Servants etc

2000-08-19 Thread Edward
From: Edward Beck, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >First of all, it is the duty of every FAC holder to do >what they can to own the guns they wish to own for lawful >purposes. If that means you have to become a race starter, >vet, hunter, collector or whatever to own a pistol on >exemption, that is what you

CS: Pol-Police Shooters v's Civilian Shooters

2000-08-19 Thread pendrous
From: "pendrous", [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve, Its NOT constructive now!! its destructive!!! You may not see it from running this successful list, but many of us can, when ones stands back and observes. I have just been mailed by another subscriber also noting it, as a result of my earli

CS: Pol-NRA-ILA FAX ALERT

2000-08-19 Thread owner-rkba-alert
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NRA-ILA FAX ALERT Vol. 7, No. 33 CINCINNATI RECKLESS SUIT CONTINUES TO SUFFER SETBACKS The City of Cincinnati's reckless lawsuit against lawful gun manufacturers was dealt another blow last week when the Court of Appeals for the First District of Ohio unanimously uphe