Reposted/Corrected: setup.exe - Accessibility Concerns For Users Of Assistive Tech.

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is a slightly amended repost of what was inadvertently only sent to the apps list on 22 Apr. Since I believe I'm on-topic for both lists, have not received a response from anyone yet and I've witnessed other comments about setup.exe improvemen

Re: zsh & lilypond

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Peter A. Castro writes: > > > Seriously, can you point me to this documented problem? > > man zsh Well, gosh, I just can't seem to find anywhere in the 'man' page for 'zsh' that talks anything about this type of posix problem, no matter how many tim

Re: Resizable setup

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:46:50 -0400 (EDT), Igor Pechtchanski typed: > On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >> On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 11:49:31PM -0400, Matthew O. Persico >> wrote: >>> On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 21:57:55 -0400, Larry Hall typed: At 09:42 PM 4/22/2004, you wrote: > PLEA

Re: Why cygwin can not find it?

Hi Yili, On 24 Apr 2004 at 7:51, Yili Zhao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spoke, thus: > I use cygiwn to compile a simple application hello.exe in e:\test, when I > enter /cyggrive/e/test and execute hello.exe in cygwin bash. However, > though hello.exe exists in this directory, cygwin still says that

Why cygwin can not find it?

Hi, I use cygiwn to compile a simple application hello.exe in e:\test, when I enter /cyggrive/e/test and execute hello.exe in cygwin bash. However, though hello.exe exists in this directory, cygwin still says that "bash: hello.exe: command not found". If I copy hello.exe to /usr/local/bin, the

Re: fetchmail/procmail lost messages

Kelly, On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 04:44:19PM +, Kelly Felkins wrote: > Jason Tishler tishler.net> writes: > > BTW, I have used Cygwin fetchmail/procmail to process my mail for > > about 3 years. I process more 10,000 emails per month. So, I have > > processed more than 300,000 messages during

Re: Running fetchmail as a service

At 02:44 PM 4/23/2004, you wrote: >> From : >> Run cygcheck -s -v -r > cygcheck.out and include that file as an attachment >> in your report. Please do not compress the output. Just attach it as a >> straight text file so that it can be easily viewed. > >So

Re: Resizable setup

Dave Korn wrote: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=ascii+guitar+tab Blimey. There's even a bunch of specialized editors for it! It's still on topic if you just narrow the search a bit: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=ascii+guitar+tab+cygwin&btnG=Se

RE: Running fetchmail as a service

>> service. Also, don't remount /, /usr/bin, and /usr/lib as text mounts. >> You won't be doing yourself any favors with that. > >Well, I remounted those because that's what cron_diagnose.sh said to >do... Mount them as binary. -Richard Campbell -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/

Re: Running fetchmail as a service

> From : > Run cygcheck -s -v -r > cygcheck.out and include that file as an attachment > in your report. Please do not compress the output. Just attach it as a > straight text file so that it can be easily viewed. Sorry... > Definitely. And you're cygch

Re: Running fetchmail as a service

At 02:21 PM 4/23/2004, you wrote: >> We really need all the information requested by: > >> >Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html > >Attached as gz. From : Run cygcheck -s -v -r > cygcheck.out and include that file as an attachment in your

Re: Running fetchmail as a service

> We really need all the information requested by: > >Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Attached as gz. > Seems very odd that '/var/log/fetchmail.log' exists after the failed > attempt to start fetchmail as a service. Why do you say that? Fetchmail is exiting immediatel

RE: Still no microphone support?

> From: Larry Hall > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:35 PM > >> There is an implementation of read() in CVS HEAD. There was also a > >> thread on cygwin-patches on this. Try the latest snapshot -- it > >> should work. > >> Igor > > > > Heh! ;-) I see that as an invitation; > > > Best to be

RE: Resizable setup

> From: Larry Hall > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 3:58 AM > At 09:42 PM 4/22/2004, you wrote: > >PLEASE!!! For the love of all that is holly can the lead developer of > >the setup app please make it resizable!!! > > > >Render unto windows what is windows'. and leave the bad habits there > >too. >

RE: Line breaks in bash

> From: Ashok Vadekar > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 5:13 PM > It was XP in my case. The stty -a followed by a kill -WINCH > my-bash-pid works (even with a mode.com based resize). > Thanks for the insight. I hope the original poster gets > something out of this too. Trying to add some more tra

RE: i want to re-download all packages... how?

> From: Erik Cumps > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:53 PM Hannu: > > He wanted it on a cd/rw... IMO that implies _not_ installing it. > > Why not use mkcygwget. It's what I do to create my Cygwin installation > CDs... > > Erik Cumps Well, why not. IMO everybody is welcome to enhance things :-) S

Re: Maildir and Cygwin

On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 11:33:13PM -0500, GARY VANSICKLE wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:26:00AM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > > > > > :) > that Cygwin is different (e.g. we could do this in the cygwin > > > :) > applications mailing list). > > > :) > > > :) Why do you want to change so man

Re: Running fetchmail as a service

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Christopher Benson-Manica wrote: > I've tried many things to get this to work correctly, and I just don't > seem to be able to get it working right... Here's my best effort: > > [12:53:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]> rm /var/log/fetchmail.log > rm: remove write-protected file `/var/log

Re: Running fetchmail as a service

At 12:58 PM 4/23/2004, you wrote: >I've tried many things to get this to work correctly, and I just don't >seem to be able to get it working right... Here's my best effort: > >[12:53:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]> rm /var/log/fetchmail.log >rm: remove write-protected file `/var/log/fetchmail.log'? y >[12:5

Running fetchmail as a service

I've tried many things to get this to work correctly, and I just don't seem to be able to get it working right... Here's my best effort: [12:53:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]> rm /var/log/fetchmail.log rm: remove write-protected file `/var/log/fetchmail.log'? y [12:54:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]> cygrunsrv -R fet

Re: required packages not always selected

At 12:45 PM 4/23/2004, you wrote: >We have user reports that when they select the (lilypond in this case) >package, the other required packages are not always selected. Is this a >known problem? What can be the cause of this? There haven't been any such reports other than the dependency problem

Re: fetchmail/procmail lost messages

Kelly Felkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How can I configure fetchmail/procmail to fail *safe*? So that, if > there are any mail processing problems, messages are not lost? This should just work. Read "RETRIEVAL FAILURE MODES" in the fetchmail man page. When I try to reproduce the problem wit

RE: required packages not always selected

> -Original Message- > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Bertalan Fodor > Sent: 23 April 2004 17:45 > We have user reports that when they select the (lilypond in this case) > package, the other required packages are not always selected. > Is this a known problem? It's known that setup oc

Re: fetchmail/procmail lost messages

Jason Tishler tishler.net> writes: > > Kelly, > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:59:06PM -0700, Kelly Felkins wrote: > > For example, today the hard drive that I use for both the spool file > > and my mail boxes was off-line. Five messages to /dev/null. > > > > I'm inclined to think this is a bad

RE: Tutorial on ACL's?

> -Original Message- > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Larry Hall > Sent: 23 April 2004 17:01 > FWIW, I don't > have to fiddle with ACLs or any other kind of permissions to > get and keep > things working for me. YMMV. MMDV. http://sources.redhat.com/ml/cygwin/2004-03/msg00454.html

required packages not always selected

We have user reports that when they select the (lilypond in this case) package, the other required packages are not always selected. Is this a known problem? What can be the cause of this? Bert -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwi

Re: Tutorial on ACL's?

At 11:49 AM 4/23/2004, you wrote: >Perhaps, but the tutorial will probably not contain the information I need. >The reason being is if I do commands like getfacl /cygdrive/e using a cygwin >distribution from 1 year ago I get different results than I do getfacl >/cygdrive/e on a current distribution

Re: Tutorial on ACL's?

Perhaps, but the tutorial will probably not contain the information I need. The reason being is if I do commands like getfacl /cygdrive/e using a cygwin distribution from 1 year ago I get different results than I do getfacl /cygdrive/e on a current distribution. Also, chown and chmod and mkdir see

Re: Tutorial on ACL's?

At 11:09 AM 4/23/2004, you wrote: >Is there a good tutorial for ACL's somewhere? I find ACL's do not work they >way I expect on NTFS. Eventually directories which I use chmod and chown on >become unusable for general actives. For example, I regularly install >applications on my e: drive. Howeve

Tutorial on ACL's?

Is there a good tutorial for ACL's somewhere? I find ACL's do not work they way I expect on NTFS. Eventually directories which I use chmod and chown on become unusable for general actives. For example, I regularly install applications on my e: drive. However, because I have used chmod and chown

RE: i want to re-download all packages... how?

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Dave Korn wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Igor Pechtchanski > > Sent: 23 April 2004 16:16 > > > . > > Igor > > P.S. > > > > On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, electa

RE: Maildir and Cygwin

*** GARY VANSICKLE ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote in the...: :) > On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 08:26:00AM -0700, Eduardo Chappa wrote: :) > :) > > :) > that Cygwin is different (e.g. we could do this in the cygwin :) > > :) > applications mailing list). :) > > :) :) > > :) Why do you want to change so man

RE: Resizable setup

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Dave Korn wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Igor Pechtchanski > > Sent: 23 April 2004 15:47 > > > > (or, worse yet, imagine ASCII-art sheet music or guitar > > tabs). ^ I meant "on this list". > > Igor > > Who needs to i

RE: i want to re-download all packages... how?

> -Original Message- > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Igor Pechtchanski > Sent: 23 April 2004 16:16 > . > Igor > P.S. > > On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, electa wrote: > > > it is interensting... (for future CDs ;-

Re: Line breaks in bash

It was XP in my case. The stty -a followed by a kill -WINCH my-bash-pid works (even with a mode.com based resize). Thanks for the insight. I hope the original poster gets something out of this too. On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 11:13:05AM -0400, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: > Which OS? Win9x console is

Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

. Igor P.S. On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, electa wrote: > it is interensting... (for future CDs ;-) where i can found info on this > utility? > > "Erik Cumps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > > > > If you *really* wan

Re: Line breaks in bash

Which OS? Win9x console is pretty much braindead. Cygwin's programs (notably bash) have code for processing a SIGWINCH, which they should receive whenever a window (console or otherwise) that they're running in gets resized. However, the code for sending this signal will only detect a *window* r

RE: Resizable setup

> -Original Message- > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Igor Pechtchanski > Sent: 23 April 2004 15:47 > (or, worse yet, imagine ASCII-art sheet music or guitar > tabs). > Igor Who needs to imagine it, when there's so much of it out there for real. http://alt.venus.co.uk/wee

Re: Resizable setup

On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 11:49:31PM -0400, Matthew O. Persico wrote: > >On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 21:57:55 -0400, Larry Hall typed: > >> At 09:42 PM 4/22/2004, you wrote: > >>>PLEASE!!! For the love of all that is holly can the lead developer of > >>>the s

RE: cygrunsrv

At 09:18 AM 4/23/2004, you wrote: >>When I try to install services using cygrunsrv, the XP service manager >>always lists the path to the executable as cygrunsrv rather than the >>executable I tried to install. What might I be doing wrong? >>Thanks... > >Possibly nothing. > >Looking at my services

Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 01:43, electa wrote: > it selects only my installed packs, but not the other. i want all for my > cygwin-CD! Run setup twice in download only mode. In the first run, toggle the word default to the right of all to 'reinstall'. In the second run, choose 'download' in the same

Networking services on Cygwin

Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I did not find in the documentaion the steps to start srvices like ftp, telnet etc. I did run xinetd though, but running telnet, ftp etc do not work and I could not find ways to troubleshoot other than the few messages I see in /var/log/servicelog. Thanks, Koundinya

Re: 1.5.9-1: weird console I/O behaviour compiling with -mno-cygwin

On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 04:18:11PM +0800, Enzo Michelangeli wrote: >Quick update: The same testcase, compiled under MSYS 1.0.10 with Mingw >gcc (gcc 3.2.3 (mingw special 20030504-1)), does not exhibit the problem >No.1, but still shows the No.2 when run in a standard DOS box. When run >inside a MS

Re: need postgresql-7.3.4-2

I had some problems with Postgres 7.4 and Tomcat, too. But finally I was able to fix the issues by upgrading the Postgres-JDBC drivers in my webapps with the new version for 7.4. So I could avoid downgrading Postgres on Cygwin. Frank-Michael Carol Thomson wrote: I have a Java Tomcat 4.1 app t

Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

"electa" wrote: > it is interensting... (for future CDs ;-) where i can found info on this > utility? http://www.google.com/search?q=mkcygwget&sourceid=opera&num=50&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 > "Erik Cumps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto nel messaggio http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#PCYMTNQREAIYR I know so

Re: cygrunsrv

no you are not wrong it is the same for me under win2k and it is working i think that cygrunsrv is the one who call the right program Christopher Benson-Manica a écrit: When I try to install services using cygrunsrv, the XP service manager always lists the path to the executable as cygrunsrv rathe

RE: cygrunsrv

>When I try to install services using cygrunsrv, the XP service manager >always lists the path to the executable as cygrunsrv rather than the >executable I tried to install. What might I be doing wrong? >Thanks... Possibly nothing. Looking at my services, cron/inetd/sshd, all of which are workin

cygrunsrv

When I try to install services using cygrunsrv, the XP service manager always lists the path to the executable as cygrunsrv rather than the executable I tried to install. What might I be doing wrong? Thanks... -- Christopher Benson-Manica ataru(at)sdf.lonestar.org -- Unsubscribe info: http

Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

it is interensting... (for future CDs ;-) where i can found info on this utility? "Erik Cumps" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto nel messaggio news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > If you *really* want to download absolutely *everything*, just > > > > delete the entire contents of your local download direct

Done!

yes, using 2 times the setup works!! Download from internet with Install then Retrieve. "Brian Keener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto nel messaggio news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Electa wrote: > > it selects only my installed packs, but not the other. i want all for my > > cygwin-CD! > > > It would appe

Re: INITDB-error - end-of-copy marker error

Chris, On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 01:05:13PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 12:56:39PM -0400, Jason Tishler wrote: > >Try a recent snapshot -- it will work much better than 1.5.9-1. > > What has changed in snapshots that would make this work better? See the following:

RE: i want to re-download all packages... how?

> > > If you *really* want to download absolutely *everything*, just > > > delete the entire contents of your local download directory and > > > start again. > > _That_ is plain MEAN ;-) > > > Actually, I think that was his original problem. ;-) If you want > > to make setup forget about what you

Re: Line breaks in bash

I get the behaviour even if I comment out all the complex PS1 definitions in /etc/profile. To see it, open a bash (windows console, I don't know about rxvt) and resize it to be larger than the 80x25 (mode.com con lines=50 cols=120). Then type away (at a prompt) and see that the text will wrap at ~

Re: fetchmail/procmail lost messages

Kelly, On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:59:06PM -0700, Kelly Felkins wrote: > For example, today the hard drive that I use for both the spool file > and my mail boxes was off-line. Five messages to /dev/null. > > I'm inclined to think this is a bad design. Or have I got it > configured incorrectly? Po

Re: Cygwin setup errors

On Fri, 2004-04-23 at 02:53, Jim Johansen wrote: > I am trying to install cygwin and kde-cygwin on a work machine. When I start > cygwin I get the following errors. It tries to set up files on a non existant > network drive. I am not sure what to change where is start up scripts. Maybe > it is

RE: [OT] Email address. Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

> Sent: 23 April 2004 11:52 From: Dave Korn ..snip.. > There's a broad concensus among the spamfighting community > that there > isn't actually any email-address-snarfing software out there > that actually > does bother to attempt to demunge addresses. When non-munged > addresses are > out

RE: [OT] Email address. Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

> -Original Message- > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Jani tiainen > Sent: 23 April 2004 10:41 > Err, and do you really think that spam-mail-address gatherers are so > stupid Rule #1 in full effect! > that they can't extract mail from somewhere dot com> format..? Yes, actually.

Re: zsh & lilypond

Peter A. Castro writes: > Seriously, can you point me to this documented problem? man zsh > And, it appears this may be a platform specific issue IIRC, it is a configuration issue. Configurations often differ between platforms and installations. > , as I can't seem to reproduce it under Linux

Re: [OT] Email address. Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

Jani tiainen wrote: Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: So do it once that way to get the installed packages and then run it again to get the uninstalled packages. On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:43:21PM +0200, electa wrote: it selects only my installed packs, but not the other. i want all for my cygw

[OT] Email address. Re: i want to re-download all packages... how?

Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: So do it once that way to get the installed packages and then run it again to get the uninstalled packages. On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 05:43:21PM +0200, electa wrote: it selects only my installed packs, but not the other. i want all for my cygwin-CD! "Yitzchak Scott-T

RE: recompiling cygwin dll problems

> -Original Message- > From: cygwin-owner On Behalf Of Christopher Faylor > Sent: 22 April 2004 20:29 > On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 02:44:47PM -0400, Larry Hall wrote: > >>Or maybe its neither a nor b.. perhaps there's a runtime > component? Perhaps you > >>can't run two versions of the cygw

Re: 1.5.9-1: weird console I/O behaviour compiling with -mno-cygwin

Quick update: The same testcase, compiled under MSYS 1.0.10 with Mingw gcc (gcc 3.2.3 (mingw special 20030504-1)), does not exhibit the problem No.1, but still shows the No.2 when run in a standard DOS box. When run inside a MSYS window it does not recognize as EOF either Ctrl-Z or Ctrl-D, so the