Re: installer improvements

2010-04-07 Thread wefwef wefwef
> All that said, the tone of the requester is not helping the setup > maintainer or the rest of the list really sympathize with his position. >  His points wouldn't be so bad if he merely asked for features and > improvements rather than demand them and belittle the maintainers when > they disagree

Re: installer improvements

2010-04-07 Thread wefwef wefwef
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Morgan Gangwere <0.fracta...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:10 AM, wefwef wefwef wrote: >>>> After using cygwin for years, and having some recent difficulty >>>> installing, I took a look at the installer to actua

Re: installer improvements

2010-04-06 Thread wefwef wefwef
>> After using cygwin for years, and having some recent difficulty >> installing, I took a look at the installer to actually try and >> understand it (a novel concept I know!). Here are my thoughts on the >> gui - I think it could be made considerably more user friendly with >> some minor cosmetic

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
>>You also can't see obvious flaws that are right in front of your face, >>even after they have been pointed out to you several times. > > That's not true.  You're complicating what could be a simple issue by > not providing the data that would allow us to fix any problem.  And, > you're mixing so

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
>  You also proposed adding a feature it already has, a column telling you > whether a package is already installed or not.  This tells me that you > are not > calmly and dispassionately observing what is in front of your eyes. It doesn't have a column dedicated for this purpo

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
>>>  You also proposed adding a feature it already has, a column telling you >>> whether a package is already installed or not.  This tells me that you are >>> not >>> calmly and dispassionately observing what is in front of your eyes. >> It doesn't have a column dedicated for this purpose, that c

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Dave Korn wrote: > On 05/04/2010 16:04, wefwef wefwef wrote: > >>> On 05/04/2010 15:40, wefwef wefwef wrote: > >>>> The cygwin setup program has some obvious gui design flaws - a two >>>> year old can see that. It is a di

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Dave Korn wrote: > On 05/04/2010 15:40, wefwef wefwef wrote: > >> Do you think it should pay attention to the existing installation when >> it is downloading to an entirely different directory to create an >> entirely separate installat

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Dave Korn wrote: > On 05/04/2010 13:43, wefwef wefwef wrote: > >> No, I was advised to do this to get round a nasty bug in the installer. > >  No, you were advised to do this to work around the fully correct behaviour > of the installer in that

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Dave Korn wrote: > On 05/04/2010 10:22, wefwef wefwef wrote: >> This is what I did: >> renamed my current cygwin install directory to fool setup.exe into >> thinking it was a new installation > >  If you deliberately try and fool a piece

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
Yes, I clicked the top left to change from default to install, so that it would install everything that I had downloaded. On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: wefwef wefwef >> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 5:22 >> Su

installer improvements

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
After using cygwin for years, and having some recent difficulty installing, I took a look at the installer to actually try and understand it (a novel concept I know!). Here are my thoughts on the gui - I think it could be made considerably more user friendly with some minor cosmetic changes. The V

Re: cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-05 Thread wefwef wefwef
This is what I did: renamed my current cygwin install directory to fool setup.exe into thinking it was a new installation ran setup, selected download without installing, from ftp.fit.vutbr.cz I left everything on default, and selected additionally vim, openssh, 7z, ping and rsync, by changing to t

cygintl-8.dll was not found

2010-04-03 Thread wefwef wefwef
I have downloaded the cygwin with all the defaults, plus a few extra packages to a local directory, then copied this to another machine and installed. - (Thanks to those who helped to get a minimal install, it is now 80 MB) I am getting the error message: cygintl-8.dll was not found, when I click

Re: minimal installation

2010-04-02 Thread wefwef wefwef
> No. It is not, if you run the install without changing any package selection > it > is: 60,058,633 bytes. Then the installer has a bug because it was 501 MB when I did that. I suspect it is getting confused by my existing cygwin installation. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problem

Re: minimal installation

2010-04-02 Thread wefwef wefwef
What are you saying Jason, that a default installation plus the packages mentioned is 27MB ? I'm asking, because it's not really clear from your mail. Yesterday I ran the installer and downloaded the defaults only - which came to 501 MB. Is it possible that the installer is getting confused by my

Re: minimal installation

2010-04-02 Thread wefwef wefwef
Apr 2, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote: > > >> -Original Message- >> From: wefwef wefwef >> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 8:59 >> Subject: minimal installation >> >> I am trying to do a minimal cygwin install plus vi, ssh, 7z, >> ping

downloading individual packages

2010-04-02 Thread wefwef wefwef
does anyone know of a way to download a single package and all it's dependencies ? I know the installer is supposed to be able to do this, but I've never actually had it work in practice. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Docum

minimal installation

2010-04-02 Thread wefwef wefwef
I am trying to do a minimal cygwin install plus vi, ssh, 7z, ping, and rsync. The reason it has to be minimal is that I want to deploy it to several pc's that don't have internet access - and are in a different country (ie slow transfer) - to deploy the full 500mb default would be too slow. I hav