Randall R Schulz wrote:
I think we have to work with the legal system, not try to subvert it.
Microsoft has a right to set the licensing terms it wants. We have a
right to tell them to go to hell. Currently however, and as you note,
the power relationship is highly skewed. It ain't easy to
On Thursday 03 April 2003 06:54, Steve Coleman wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
I think we have to work with the legal system, not try to subvert it.
Microsoft has a right to set the licensing terms it wants. We have a
right to tell them to go to hell. Currently however, and as you note,
Tim,
At 07:28 2003-04-03, you wrote:
...
Lack of cygwin support has impeded the market penetration of Windows
XP64, but it seems Microsoft would rather lose out to linux and HPUX
than let their customers run cygwin. It may be they don't understand
how many customers depend on cygwin, which
Steve Coleman wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
I think we have to work with the legal system, not try to subvert it.
Microsoft has a right to set the licensing terms it wants. We have a
right to tell them to go to hell. Currently however, and as you note,
the power relationship is highly
Tim Prince wrote:
Lack of cygwin support has impeded the market penetration of Windows
XP64, but it seems Microsoft would rather lose out to linux and HPUX
than let their customers run cygwin. It may be they don't understand
how many customers depend on cygwin, which is their fault too, since
On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
Tim Prince wrote:
Lack of cygwin support has impeded the market penetration of Windows
XP64, but it seems Microsoft would rather lose out to linux and HPUX
than let their customers run cygwin. It may be they don't understand
how many customers
DeFaria
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On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
Tim Prince wrote:
Lack of cygwin support has impeded the market penetration of Windows
XP64, but it seems Microsoft would rather lose out to linux and HPUX
than let their customers
with #ifdefs, yes -- is that the
objection here?
stephan();
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From: Stephan Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 10:37:19 -0800
Subject: RE: Big Brother is Real
Can someone elaborate on exactly which APIs have changed incompatibly
(in 64-bit Windows)?
I'm only mildly familiar with the 64-bit
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From: Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 07:34:20 -0800
Subject: Re: Big Brother is Real
Tim,
At 07:28 2003-04-03, you wrote:
...
Lack of cygwin support has impeded the market penetration of Windows
XP64, but it seems
At 12:22 2003-04-03, Timothy C Prince wrote:
...
We don't care. We don't have to. We're the phone company.
-- Lily Tomlin
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They may care. I doubt their chances of overtaking linux-ia64 or
making back their investment in XP64 this year are
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 07:28:14AM -0800, Tim Prince wrote:
Lack of cygwin support has impeded the market penetration of Windows XP64,
Wow. I had no idea I was so powerful. I think I need a raise.
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On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 10:37:19AM -0800, Stephan Mueller wrote:
Can someone elaborate on exactly which APIs have changed incompatibly
(in 64-bit Windows)?
I'm only mildly familiar with the 64-bit story, but my understanding is
that the the 64-bit APIs are basically the same as 32-bit (with the
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 04:37:26PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
I think the only problem is that Cygwin probably just needs to be debugged
to see what's going on. If someone wants to send me a nice 64 bit system
running WinXP 64 (or whatever it's called), I'll see what I can do.
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 11:47:39PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 04:37:26PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
I think the only problem is that Cygwin probably just needs to be debugged
to see what's going on. If someone wants to send me a nice 64 bit system
running
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 04:49:43PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 11:47:39PM +0200, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
I got a hint lately about stuff working different on 64bit. If a 32 bit
application is called from a 64 bit application the stack is 0xc000
lower than if the
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From: Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 16:34:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Big Brother is Real
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 07:28:14AM -0800, Tim Prince wrote:
Lack of cygwin support has impeded the market penetration of Windows XP64
, the efforts made to remain compatible with existing apps
are astounding.
stephan();
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On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 04:12:24PM -0800, Stephan Mueller wrote:
Speaking only for myself, and not my employer (because I don't know what
he thinks) I can only say that from everyone I've met, and everything I
do know, it appears to me that API changes are always made with
backwards compatibility
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 07:16:14PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 04:12:24PM -0800, Stephan Mueller wrote:
Speaking only for myself, and not my employer (because I don't know what
he thinks) I can only say that from everyone I've met, and everything I
do know, it appears
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On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 07:16:14PM -0500, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 04:12:24PM -0800, Stephan Mueller wrote:
Speaking only for myself, and not my employer (because I don't know what
he
At 07:14 2003-04-01, you wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
...
XP is the first rocksolid Windows OS.
[snip]
Thorsten
... with completely unrealistic licensing (see the last paragraph of
http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html#office).
OH. MY. GOD.
I installed SP3 on my
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Randall R Schulz wrote:
At 07:14 2003-04-01, you wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
...
XP is the first rocksolid Windows OS.
[snip]
Thorsten
... with completely unrealistic licensing (see the last paragraph of
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Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:29 AM
Subject: Big Brother is Real
At 07:14 2003-04-01, you wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
...
XP is the first rocksolid Windows OS.
[snip]
Thorsten
... with completely unrealistic
* Randall R Schulz (03-04-01 17:29 +0100)
At 07:14 2003-04-01, you wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
XP is the first rocksolid Windows OS.
... with completely unrealistic licensing (see the last paragraph of
http://www.aaxnet.com/editor/edit029.html#office).
OH. MY. GOD.
: Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:29 AM
Subject: Big Brother is Real
At 07:14 2003-04-01, you wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
...
XP is the first rocksolid Windows OS.
[snip]
Thorsten
... with completely
Thorsten,
At 07:50 2003-04-01, you wrote:
* Randall R Schulz (03-04-01 17:29 +0100)
At 07:14 2003-04-01, you wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
XP is the first rocksolid Windows OS.
... with completely unrealistic licensing (see the last paragraph of
OH. MY. GOD.
I installed SP3 on my Win2K. Ignorance is NOT bliss.
I guess it really is time to move to Linux.
Randall Schulz
Any comments on whether a firewall helps? I don't use office, just
Win2K (and even then, mostly on cygwin). I recall a time Kerio
and ZoneAlarm kept asking for
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 08:24:15AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Thorsten,
At 07:50 2003-04-01, you wrote:
* Randall R Schulz (03-04-01 17:29 +0100)
At 07:14 2003-04-01, you wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
XP is the first rocksolid Windows OS.
... with completely
* Randall R Schulz (03-04-01 18:24 +0100)
At 07:50 2003-04-01, you wrote:
* Randall R Schulz (03-04-01 17:29 +0100)
At 07:14 2003-04-01, you wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
XP is the first rocksolid Windows OS.
... with completely unrealistic licensing (see the last
Herr Doktor Faylor,
At 08:38 2003-04-01, you wrote:
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 08:24:15AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Thorsten,
At 07:50 2003-04-01, you wrote:
* Randall R Schulz (03-04-01 17:29 +0100)
At 07:14 2003-04-01, you wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
XP is the first
Chris,
At 08:38 2003-04-01, you wrote:
I don't recall giving you my permission to move to Linux, Randall.
You're too valuable to the cygwin community for me to allow this move.
Maybe a gold star would help persuade me to stay...
Sorry.
cgf
Randy
(there he is again)
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On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:05:51AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
At 08:38 2003-04-01, you wrote:
I don't recall giving you my permission to move to Linux, Randall.
You're too valuable to the cygwin community for me to allow this move.
Sorry.
Yes, master. How shall I punish myself?
Just monitor
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Chris,
At 08:38 2003-04-01, you wrote:
I don't recall giving you my permission to move to Linux, Randall.
You're too valuable to the cygwin community for me to allow this move.
Maybe a gold star would help persuade me to stay...
Sorry.
cgf
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:05:51AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
At 08:38 2003-04-01, you wrote:
I don't recall giving you my permission to move to Linux, Randall.
You're too valuable to the cygwin community for me to allow this move.
Sorry.
Yes, master. How shall I punish myself?
You
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:05:51AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
At 08:38 2003-04-01, you wrote:
I don't recall giving you my permission to move to Linux, Randall.
You're too valuable to the cygwin community for me to allow this move.
Chris,
At 09:19 2003-04-01, you wrote:
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:05:51AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
At 08:38 2003-04-01, you wrote:
I don't recall giving you my permission to move to Linux, Randall.
You're too valuable to the cygwin community for me to allow this move.
Sorry.
Yes, master.
.
If, lastly Office 11 would not be backwards compatible with their previous
documents, I see the sun rise!
guenter
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Subject: Re: Big Brother
Günter,
At 09:56 2003-04-01, you wrote:
I missed out on that.. What does sp3 for win2k do?
It opens a back door for MS snooping. DRM indeed!
Btw. I only use amd cpu's. To my understanding they don't have the cpu id (I
don't trust a software that allows me to turn the id of because obviously
To: 'Randall R Schulz'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Big Brother is Real
I missed out on that.. What does sp3 for win2k do?
Btw. I only use amd cpu's. To my understanding they don't have the cpu id (I
don't trust a software that allows me to turn the id of because obviously
software can also turn
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 12:31:11PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:05:51AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Yes, master. How shall I punish myself?
You didn't read your discworld careful enough. It's spelled
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 12:31:11PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:05:51AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
At 08:38 2003-04-01, you wrote:
I don't recall giving you my permission to move to Linux, Randall.
You're
Linux STILL doesnt have driver support for the latest video cards..
In other words if you're working in Linux keep that VGA card !
-Martin
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From: Thorsten Kampe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: Big Brother
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 12:31:11PM -0500, Igor Pechtchanski wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:05:51AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Yes, master. How shall I punish myself?
You didn't read
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:40:03AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Chris,
At 09:19 2003-04-01, you wrote:
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:05:51AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
At 08:38 2003-04-01, you wrote:
I don't recall giving you my permission to move to Linux, Randall.
You're too valuable to the
At 10:10 2003-04-01, you wrote:
A lisp would be already a good start. Just don't write programs with it...
Hey! Lisp is my all-time favorite language!
Corinna
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Sent: Tuesday, 01 April, 2003 12:07
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Big Brother is Real
Günter,
At 09:56 2003-04-01, you wrote:
I missed out on that.. What does sp3 for win2k do?
It opens a back door for MS snooping. DRM indeed!
Btw. I only use amd cpu's. To my
Günter,
That first remark of mine was meant facetiously, of course. SP3 does
more than just open a privacy hole (I assume).
My guess (nope, I haven't done the research--I had my child-like
naivete destroyed by Igor's URL just today!) is that it's during system
update that you're going to be
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 10:38:15AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
At 10:10 2003-04-01, you wrote:
A lisp would be already a good start. Just don't write programs with it...
Hey! Lisp is my all-time favorite language!
Yeth, thath the thame with all Igorth...
Corinna
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Randall R Schulz wrote:
Obligatory disclaimer: I ANAL. You?
You'd better make that IANASCJ
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On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:14:23AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
At 08:38 2003-04-01, you wrote:
I don't recall giving you my permission to move to Linux, Randall.
You're too valuable to the cygwin community for me to allow this move.
Maybe a gold star would help persuade me to stay...
Ok,
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Christopher Faylor wrote:
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 09:14:23AM -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
At 08:38 2003-04-01, you wrote:
I don't recall giving you my permission to move to Linux, Randall.
You're too valuable to the cygwin community for me to allow this move.
Maybe a
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